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Whats the deal with these knock offs and how do they get away with it?

Allar

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I personaly couldn't care less if something is cloned or whatever, as long as i'm getting similar item for 10x cheaper, im happy!
And the 'made in china' doesn't mean that its low quality, like seriously look around everything is made in china.
 
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I personaly couldn't care less if something is cloned or whatever, as long as i'm getting similar item for 10x cheaper, im happy!
And the 'made in china' doesn't mean that its low quality, like seriously look around everything is made in china.
We're not talking about anything, we're talking about the chainsaws. Specifically the bottom dollar Chinese ones. They're usually about 1/3 of the model they're cloning, with roughly(debatably) 1/2 of the overall value. And that's if you don't get a lemon and have to do the Chinese help line do-si-do. On the other hand, you can spend half or less the cost of a Chinese copy and buy a builder. All OEM re-build and be right around the cost of a cheap knock off.
 
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We're not talking about anything, we're talking about the chainsaws. Specifically the bottom dollar Chinese ones. They're usually about 1/3 of the model they're cloning, with roughly(debatably) 1/2 of the overall value. And that's if you don't get a lemon and have to do the Chinese help line do-si-do. On the other hand, you can spend half or less the cost of a Chinese copy and buy a builder. All OEM re-build and be right around the cost of a cheap knock off.
Are you talking about the actual clones that claim to be a specific husqv/stihl or do you include the huztl/farmertec aswell?
 
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Gotcha, I never pulled a trigger on getting one of those, due having a bad feeling that it just won't give me the feel that a real deal would.
I kept my eye on peeps that bought em and had a understanding that these are pretty decent but i gues that's not the case.
 
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This Buy or dont buy products based on whatever you believe. China sucks, but guess what 90% of the items people use daily have some, if not most, parts made in china. Let's think for a minute hmm, stihl uses zama carbs.... oh yeah, so does husqy. And they are made in china.
Huztl is far from Stihl spec chinese.
 
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That's a point thats been beaten to death. I'm nearly pointing out that China isnt going anywhere. They arw capable of high quality, and low cheap junk. Buy what you think is the best, just realize theres plenty of "name brand" parts that are made in china. How they get away with ripping off a complete saw is for the lawyers to figure out.
 
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That's a point thats been beaten to death. I'm nearly pointing out that China isnt going anywhere. They arw capable of high quality, and low cheap junk. Buy what you think is the best, just realize theres plenty of "name brand" parts that are made in china. How they get away with ripping off a complete saw is for the lawyers to figure out.
The legality and/or national pride aspect of it aren't the basis of my opinion of the huztl stuff.
 
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From my point of view most current models of saws are pure junk. I do not want any auto tune could not pay me to own that kind of BS. I do not want EPA compliant junk either. I want a straight motor with oil pump and carburetor. So older technology is what I prefer. If I can not change a carburetor in the field quickly a saw has no value. Saw companies are at a difficult situation I realize but they could put much more effort to bring simple minded equipment to consumers. I have seven or eight OEM Stihl and Husky and about that many in aftermarket saws. At this moment they all seem the same with little disappointment. Thanks
 
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From my point of view most current models of saws are pure junk. I do not want any auto tune could not pay me to own that kind of BS. I do not want EPA compliant junk either. I want a straight motor with oil pump and carburetor. So older technology is what I prefer. If I can not change a carburetor in the field quickly a saw has no value. Saw companies are at a difficult situation I realize but they could put much more effort to bring simple minded equipment to consumers. I have seven or eight OEM Stihl and Husky and about that many in aftermarket saws. At this moment they all seem the same with little disappointment. Thanks
So just you running ~15 saws?
 
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You are correct as I never lend out my saws so yes just me putting gas and oil in fifteen saws. Should I be concerned that that I do not have enough. I have all saws in pairs for redundancy. Thanks
Breeding pairs? Or just a companion situation? 15/2= 7.5, does that leave one saw out in the cold or is it actually a couple of poulans Lurking in the corner?
 
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Like I said before you can get by with China tools if you don't make a liven with them and use occasionally, but they are at the moment inferior to the top name brand saws used in this country. You get what you pay for and resale you take a beating. Some very concerning areas in their saws are the cranks/rod bearing, crank bearings and wrist bearing as they will implode way before OEM. AM plastic from my experience, although color maybe off a little is useable, as those Chinese can make plastic. Even their plastic tanks seem very useable. External AM parts can be very useable, but internal parts are inferior.
 
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