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[John D]

Glad to help....NOW enjoy your FREE heat!

Its hard to enjoy any heat when your waiting 6 months for a Shaver wood boiler! Scooter Ive been calling CB dealers,and no one wants to sell me a 5036,they are trying to sell me a 6084.I notice you have a lot more sq ft than me,and your running a 5036, I have 3400 sq ft and hot water,I think the 6084 is a bit excessive considering im replacing 1000-1100 gallons a yr in oil.The 6084 is very large and over 3000 more than the Shaver i was supposed to get.Is your 5036 enough for you,how often are you loading it,and how much oil did you burn a yr before you had the CB,thanks gain for all your pics and help.

 

[i'mstihlaguy]

Hey Scootermsp, what are the spigot valves for on your supply and return lines where they come through the concrete wall?

 

[Johnny Ringo]

6048 John D

Hey there John D. I have a 6048 and 3600 sq feet more or less. Live in Northern Wisconsin. I spoke with quite a few owners before I settled on the 6048 vs 5036. 6048 requires once a day filling here. It's is a bit much for October and early november with it calling for heat only every three or four hours with temps above 30 because of the 400 gallons of storage. But I have yet to burn a stick of quality hardwood yet this winter. It's been down to -10 and I haven't filled more than once an evening with nothing but popple. Most of the guys around here with the 5036's get into the habit of filling twice a day. No complaints from either camp they all love there stoves. good luck

 

[Scootermsp]

Replacing about 1700 Gallons of oil

Its hard to enjoy any heat when your waiting 6 months for a Shaver wood boiler! Scooter Ive been calling CB dealers,and no one wants to sell me a 5036,they are trying to sell me a 6084.I notice you have a lot more sq ft than me,and your running a 5036, I have 3400 sq ft and hot water,I think the 6084 is a bit excessive considering im replacing 1000-1100 gallons a yr in oil.The 6084 is very large and over 3000 more than the Shaver i was supposed to get.Is your 5036 enough for you,how often are you loading it,and how much oil did you burn a yr before you had the CB,thanks gain for all your pics and help.

Keep in mind 3 women in house using hot water thats why it's so high. I'd say about 1400 gallons for heat though. I load the 5036 in the morning and at supper. I don't really pack it though. I find it easy to deal with this way due to my schedule. I finally loaded it good last week one cold night with red oak and it went 24 hrs. I find that it will burn the amount you put in even if it wasn't needed. Two times a day works for me. When it was making DHW only it was going about 3 days on junk wood. For your application I wouldn't spent the extra $$$ for the 6048 when the 5036 will be fine for you. If I had it to do all over again I'd have to think long and hard before going for the 6048.
The spigots on the hose entry are the lowest point in the system, so if I ever need to drain the lines it can be done there without pumps or compressed air.

 

[Slick]

I'm not burning yet in my 5036 so take this for what it's worth (getting closer! for the shop at least) ...but I'll be heating a 1300 sq foot house and 2800sq foot business (steel building, 16ft ceiling in half of it, half of it insulate well, half not so well)...my CB dealer said my 5036 will keep up, the 6048 would have been his first choice but considering even the 5036 (and 100 feet of thermopex and assecories etc) was already more than I wanted to spend...I wasn't getting a 6048...he said around here (north east PA) the 5036 is by far his most popular model...CB does more 6048's out in the midwest but he said he has houses in the 3-4000ft range around here all running 5036's....that 6048 looks like a HOUSE compared to a 5036 ...the firebox scared me how big it was when I saw it Looks like a half a cord fits in there....thing is huge..

 

[Scootermsp]

Slick

I'm not burning yet in my 5036 so take this for what it's worth (getting closer! for the shop at least) ...but I'll be heating a 1300 sq foot house and 2800sq foot business (steel building, 16ft ceiling in half of it, half of it insulate well, half not so well)...my CB dealer said my 5036 will keep up, the 6048 would have been his first choice but considering even the 5036 (and 100 feet of thermopex and assecories etc) was already more than I wanted to spend...I wasn't getting a 6048...he said around here (north east PA) the 5036 is by far his most popular model...CB does more 6048's out in the midwest but he said he has houses in the 3-4000ft range around here all running 5036's....that 6048 looks like a HOUSE compared to a 5036 ...the firebox scared me how big it was when I saw it Looks like a half a cord fits in there....thing is huge..

Keep in mind that if your business is closed at night and no one is home during the day you can drop the T-stats somewhat at each building when they are not occupied and your 5036 will EASILY keep up. I drop my first floor to 50F at night and it saves wood like you wouldn't believe. If you set back your business to 55F at night and set the T-stat to go back to say 68F at 7:00 AM, you can load up your 5036 at 6:30 and it will be good to go for when the business building calls for heat. If you plan on keeping everything warm 24/7..... you better have a lot of wood.

 

[Slick]

Oh no...I'm a scrooge when it comes to heat, ask my girlfriend I keep it cold in the shop...I work strange hours out there so the last few years I've literally turned the heat off when I wasn't in there...the propane bill was killing me but it takes to long to heat up which got me looking into the OWB It'll be at 50 when I'm not in there (which is better than what it stays at now)...my house...heck if I have it at 68 my girlfriend will think it's a heat wave I hate propane bills....been freezing her out for years...

I'll post up some pictures of my install in the next week or so...bit of a different install...had to run the lines through my shop to get to the house... like into building, up the wall, along an Ibeam in the ceiling, back down the wall and out the building to the house...not fun

 

[John D]

Thanks for the feedback guys. Im just trying to weigh my options here,very frustrated that I ordered early,and planned it all out so I would be needing to install the stove in the cold weather,and now I am scrambling to get info on other OWB's and try to salvage my heating bills for this winter,Ive been burning oil for almost a month and 1/2 now.I think the 5036 will be fine,heck Shaver was telling me the 165 would be good enough for me,and its small next to the 5036.

 

[barnyardman]

My new Heatmor 200css

Had my new Heatmor 200css installed 2 weeks ago. Here are some pics. Will have some under the house pics later.

Pump is a Taco 0011 f4

Wood

 

[urhstry]

Hey Scooter, now that the colder weather is here, how is that 30 plate HX working for you? Still keeping up to speed?

 

[Scootermsp]

Good to go

Hey Scooter, now that the colder weather is here, how is that 30 plate HX working for you? Still keeping up to speed?

Still working great. It's snowing like a bastard right now. About 14-16" since 1:30 PM. I still owe you some photos.

 

[i'mstihlaguy]

Scooter, I just noticed in your first pictures that the pump is vertical. My instructions say that the pump body has to lay horizontal for proper lubrication. Maybe yours is different. I don't know alot about it but just thought I would ask.

 

[Scootermsp]

Pump Orientation

Scooter, I just noticed in your first pictures that the pump is vertical. My instructions say that the pump body has to lay horizontal for proper lubrication. Maybe yours is different. I don't know alot about it but just thought I would ask.

It is OK to orient the pump vertically (my wrap-around) as long as it is used in a pressurized system. According to TACO website you need at least 20 PSI for this. I'm at 18 PSI according to my Weil-Mclain pressure gauge, I spoke to a customer service/tech guy at TACO and he thought I would be OK with 18 PSI. I only have it that way for access/replacement ease.

 

[urhstry]

OK, but isn't that part of your system the non-pressurized part? The pressurized sytem is your W-M. The non-pressurized system is the OWB loop. Or am i missing something?

 

[Scootermsp]

Pump orientation

Look at the 1st photo (wraparound pump and water to water HX) the pump on the wraparound side can only be like that (wet rotor facing down) on a pressuized system (it is), the Taco 009 on the OWB is placed in a manner I have found to be standard and is shown to be installed like that in the CB owner's manual. The OWB is not pressurized. Hope that clears it up. Go to the Taco website and look at this spec sheets for the pump.
http://www.taco-hvac.com/uploads/FileLibrary/100-1.8.pdf

 

[November Wolf]

Hey Scootermsp, I just want to thank you for your thread on your 5036. It has helped me alot on installing my 6048. I really appreciate guys like you helping other people and hopefully my thread on my install will help someone as well. Have a Happy New Year.

Anthony

 

[urhstry]

OK, I am a little confused. What i am reading here is that a pump should NOT be running in the vertical position. However, almost all the pics I have seen on here of OWB, they are all in the vertical position. My Shaver came with the pump mounted and it is in the vertical position. Is that why some of us are experienceing failures? What am I missing here?

 

[November Wolf]

OK, I am a little confused. What i am reading here is that a pump should NOT be running in the vertical position. However, almost all the pics I have seen on here of OWB, they are all in the vertical position. My Shaver came with the pump mounted and it is in the vertical position. Is that why some of us are experienceing failures? What am I missing here?

You can install the pumps vertical or horizontal but the the motor shaft must remain in the horizontal position.

 

[Scootermsp]

Hey Scootermsp, I just want to thank you for your thread on your 5036. It has helped me alot on installing my 6048. I really appreciate guys like you helping other people and hopefully my thread on my install will help someone as well. Have a Happy New Year.

Anthony

How is season 2 working out with the 6048?

 

[dsm382]

lol....i was going to comment on the plumbing job too....so, two fools hanging around.

nice work!!!

do I hear THREE ?

GOOD JOB...

still can't bring myself to installing a boiler system, keep hearing they burn WAY more wood then a standard furnace. other then the house NOT being cold when i get up a 5 am, that is a consideration.....