Is this a design flaw on Stihl saws?

[dieselram]

I have never ran a MS441. Where is the decompression valve located??? Is it any worse than the 372's on the right side the little blue dot???

 

[dingeryote]

I have never ran a MS441. Where is the decompression valve located??? Is it any worse than the 372's on the right side the little blue dot???

There's a decomp on a 372?

Ruh roh....

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

 

[dieselram]

There's a decomp on a 372?

Ruh roh....

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

Maybe i was thinking about the 394... But it is a 1/4" blue dot on the right side that is hard to get to with gloves on...

 

[dingeryote]

Maybe i was thinking about the 394... But it is a 1/4" blue dot on the right side that is hard to get to with gloves on...

I was funnin' ya.

Yeah, there's one on the 372 as you describe.
Some of us just ignore it or forget it's there.

1/2" drill bit cures the issue with access while wearing gloves.
Just open that thing up.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

 

[GASoline71]

I shoulda stayed out of this one, I lived with righthand pull starts, with thumb operated chokes. Evidently I will put up with anything.

Mornin' pard'... Gettin' accustomed to dropstarting right hand starts with 36" bars is like performing in a circus side show.

Gary

 

[SawTroll]

I ran a 441 for the first time and was generally impressed.

Why do they put the decompression valve on the wrong side of the saw? On my Dolmar 7900 the decompression is on the side of the starter cord. This makes it easy to press with the same thumb holding the cord. I usually have to push it in again after the saw pops. On the 441 I had to reach to the other side of the saw.

Is this a design flaw?

I guess it is designed to be depressed by the hand that holds the handlebar - it surely isn't a design flaw!

 

[SawTroll]

Ahh, but there's a few Japanese engineers at Dolmar these days too and they obviously believe in KISS

They actually are Chinese....:greenchainsaw:

 

[Anthony_Va.]

Definetly a design flaw. They should have put a remote control button on the handlebar that you just touch your thumb too. Like a fingerprint scanner.:monkey:

 

[RandyMac]

Mornin' pard'... Gettin' accustomed to dropstarting right hand starts with 36" bars is like performing in a circus side show.

Gary

You forgot the occasional hard start along with all that. I had a 797 that for no appearent reason, would decide to try and whip my skinny ass. It would produce blasts out the muffler, belch smoke, had completely nasty snapback and then, it would start and sit there with a chuckling idle. The most evil, vile, vicious Chainsaw I ever tried to master was an 895, it left a mark or two.

 

[GASoline71]

I ran an 076 back in the 80's with a 41" bar on it... Not near as mean as an 895 (or a 797 for that matter)... but that thing beat my 18 year old ass more than once...

Gary

 

[wigglesworth]

Whats a decomp?

 

[Saw Dr.]

Who uses a decomp on a saw under 100cc's?



Gary

Exactly.

 

[John R]

I ran a 441 for the first time and was generally impressed.

Why do they put the decompression valve on the wrong side of the saw? On my Dolmar 7900 the decompression is on the side of the starter cord. This makes it easy to press with the same thumb holding the cord. I usually have to push it in again after the saw pops. On the 441 I had to reach to the other side of the saw.

Is this a design flaw?

NO, All the other saw makers are wrong.

 

[THALL10326]

You could also use your fingers of your left hand which is always on the saw anyway....

Next complaint is going to be the colour of the decomp button I reckon.

LOL, here's the cure for all the recent flaws popping up all over the board,

 

[mountainlake]

LOL, here's the cure for all the recent flaws popping up all over the board,

Yes those pacifiers are sure needed when anyone says anything bad about any Stihl saw. Steve

 

[SawTroll]

LOL, here's the cure for all the recent flaws popping up all over the board, .....

The next one that comes to mind is the color of the saws - but that is a real flaw, if you want to keep them pretty! :biggrinbounce2:

 

[mountainlake]

Another thread on here Stihl MS250 won't restart when warm, new saw. Seeing more and more of these on here and around home. Quality is taking a dive. Steve

 

[dieselram]

Another thread on here Stihl MS250 won't restart when warm, new saw. Seeing more and more of these on here and around home. Quality is taking a dive. Steve

You mean there has never been any other brand saw that has done that?????

 

[GASoline71]

LMAO... Steve, it's not always the saw.

I bet about 90% of the "won't start" problems are user error. I don't care what brand or model it is.

Gary

 

[mountainlake]

Could be user error, bad saws or crappy dealers. A older guy brings me a 029 Stihl that he said would only run 10 minutes, start smoking, quit and won't restart untill cold. He had to 2 differnt dealer to get fixed. I pull the muff expecting to see it fried but it looked good, exhaust screnn wasn't clogged, flywheel key was where it should be. Any he left the for me to look at and I let him use my $85 muff modded CS400 knowing fully well he'd love it. It took me 11 pulls to get that 029 (really nice shape) started, I don't have a tach but it sounded like it was turning maybe 17000 RPM, asdjusted the high a lot richer, fine tuned the low and that is the best running 029 MS290 I've ever run, I think from the .325 setup it had where most of the others I've run had 3/8. I call him back to tell huim it's running good, sure enough he wants to trade me even up for my $85 Echo. I should be able to ge $200 for the 029 being in really good shape with a carrring case and a extra chain. Steve Forgot to mention that 029 takes 2 pulls to start now.