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treeslayer
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So you have been in this biz more than 33 years?
Jeff
he was in that pine for at least 3 years.........
the Aerialist
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Will work for Pizza...
LOL ~ that Pine was a Sunday afternoon job, I started at 11:00 with only my wife for crew. My job was to bring it down but I did let them (the homeowner and his friends) use my chipper. I did use one of my 084s to cut up the trunk for them while I waited for them to finish chipping the branches. We were out of there by 4:00 after taking a break to eat pizza (bought by the homeowner).
I charged $1200 for my efforts. What do you make for half a day?
he was in that pine for at least 3 years.........
LOL ~ that Pine was a Sunday afternoon job, I started at 11:00 with only my wife for crew. My job was to bring it down but I did let them (the homeowner and his friends) use my chipper. I did use one of my 084s to cut up the trunk for them while I waited for them to finish chipping the branches. We were out of there by 4:00 after taking a break to eat pizza (bought by the homeowner).
I charged $1200 for my efforts. What do you make for half a day?
the Aerialist
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So you have been in this biz more than 33 years?
Jeff
Your math is as questionable as your intent. I only saw this because it was quoted by another candidate for ignore. But I checked you out Jeffy, here's the money shot from your career:
Jeff spends his days working the big ones!
Blakesmaster
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I got bored yesterday and watched a few of your videos. This is you too, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei9kE95-chs
Jeff can be abrasive and he sure likes to rile new guys on the site up but I'd take him off ignore as you could learn quite a bit from him. Props for climbing at your age and posting vids of your work but, like most, there's a lot of room for improvement.
Jeff can be abrasive and he sure likes to rile new guys on the site up but I'd take him off ignore as you could learn quite a bit from him. Props for climbing at your age and posting vids of your work but, like most, there's a lot of room for improvement.
the Aerialist
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Let's get this thread back on topic ...
The Unicender is simple, it is simply a half a rack, something used by rock climbers and cavers for decades. All those caribiners on it complexify it a bit, but the setup is modular that way.
The cambium saver is best replaced by a pulley to cut out the drag of pulling the rope through it. I'm still experimenting with it, but I believe the best way to use it is by getting a rope with an arborist pulley up over a limb and tying it off at the base of the tree. In that way, should the climber become incapacitated, the ground crew can lower him down.
Let's talk about rigging and stop the #### waving that seems to be all some here want to do.
The Unicender is simple, it is simply a half a rack, something used by rock climbers and cavers for decades. All those caribiners on it complexify it a bit, but the setup is modular that way.
The cambium saver is best replaced by a pulley to cut out the drag of pulling the rope through it. I'm still experimenting with it, but I believe the best way to use it is by getting a rope with an arborist pulley up over a limb and tying it off at the base of the tree. In that way, should the climber become incapacitated, the ground crew can lower him down.
Let's talk about rigging and stop the #### waving that seems to be all some here want to do.
the Aerialist
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Constructive criticism is always welcome ...
Thanks for taking the time to look over videos of my work. I see plenty of room for improvement when I look at them myself. If you have any specific suggestions or critiques please feel free to voice them.
The video you linked to was the 10th large Poplar tree we took down that day, and the most challenging. It was right over the wires and street with a bad lean in that direction. They were all dead, as you can see when my ground guys snapped a major limb off before I could even put my saw to it. Ten of those trees in one day with a four man crew is pretty productive. We made good money on them.
As to Jeff, when you make a habit of poking sticks at puppies, don't expect It to work out the same when you try it on an old junk yard dog.
Maybe he learned something about slagging off newbees. I'll take him off ignore and see if he actually has something to contribute to this forum besides snide remarks.
Thanks for taking the time to look over videos of my work. I see plenty of room for improvement when I look at them myself. If you have any specific suggestions or critiques please feel free to voice them.
The video you linked to was the 10th large Poplar tree we took down that day, and the most challenging. It was right over the wires and street with a bad lean in that direction. They were all dead, as you can see when my ground guys snapped a major limb off before I could even put my saw to it. Ten of those trees in one day with a four man crew is pretty productive. We made good money on them.
As to Jeff, when you make a habit of poking sticks at puppies, don't expect It to work out the same when you try it on an old junk yard dog.
Maybe he learned something about slagging off newbees. I'll take him off ignore and see if he actually has something to contribute to this forum besides snide remarks.
beowulf343
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Yeah, jeff taught me the proper usage for this smiley:
Don't know what i would have done without his guidance.
treeslayer
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I don't overcharge like that. I would have pulled it over. but hey, more power to ya for getting it. good job.
the Aerialist
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I don't charge too much, you charge too little ...
Well I guess you had to be there. The tree didn't fit in the yard I had to drop it into.
I'm in Angie's List, in the thirty reviews I have there I've been given straight "A"s in the category called "pricing" by the customers I've "overcharged". In fact, I've received straight "A"s in all five categories where they are asked to give a letter grade.
People pay me for my demonstrated skill and experience. Others are cheaper, and I win many bids where I am nowhere near the cheapest.
Here is a link from the Angie's List web site where I was singled out for my excellence of service:
http://magazine.angieslist.com/tree-service/articles/imperial-tree-service-contractor-called-an-artist.aspx
I don't overcharge like that. I would have pulled it over. but hey, more power to ya for getting it. good job.
Well I guess you had to be there. The tree didn't fit in the yard I had to drop it into.
I'm in Angie's List, in the thirty reviews I have there I've been given straight "A"s in the category called "pricing" by the customers I've "overcharged". In fact, I've received straight "A"s in all five categories where they are asked to give a letter grade.
People pay me for my demonstrated skill and experience. Others are cheaper, and I win many bids where I am nowhere near the cheapest.
Here is a link from the Angie's List web site where I was singled out for my excellence of service:
http://magazine.angieslist.com/tree-service/articles/imperial-tree-service-contractor-called-an-artist.aspx
treeslayer
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limb up halfway on spikes and a lanyard, flop the top half in that bigass whole yard I see, back on the ground in 20-30 minutes at the most.
another hour of cutting and up the road I'd go. without hauling, $400.00
add cleanup and hauling double that. big pines are easy to get down, a ##### to load out. ####ing SAP.
I win over 3/4 of my bids, and get a lot of repeat calls. but I sub out all the clean up and hauling here in northern Illinois and the economy here is brutal.
you get that kinda money, good for you, but you'd starve in half the country charging that much. sounds like I should work for you, a contract climber is an answer to your problem of good help, but we ain't cheap.
You like tooting that horn, too, huh? Angies's list is written by clueless HO's.
you just got on here bro, slow your roll, this aint a competition.
I ain't mad, I'm jealous........
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No doubt! I never climb any higher than I have to. I can chop up a tree a whole lot faster on the ground than I can hanging on a rope.
You get pretty good at dropping trees that way, too.
the Aerialist
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You callin' Jessica a HO?
They may be clueless, but they are my customers! I play my act to the person or persons paying for the show. Sure I could have shot a rope up to it, tyed it off to my dump truck and pulled it over on my way out for $400.
I'd rather take my time, try out new gear, eat pizza and do it in a way that made them feel great about paying me $1200 for doing a difficult and dangerous stunt. It's like a magic show, people should get their money's worth, and I aim to please.
treeslayer said:
They may be clueless, but they are my customers! I play my act to the person or persons paying for the show. Sure I could have shot a rope up to it, tyed it off to my dump truck and pulled it over on my way out for $400.
I'd rather take my time, try out new gear, eat pizza and do it in a way that made them feel great about paying me $1200 for doing a difficult and dangerous stunt. It's like a magic show, people should get their money's worth, and I aim to please.
... and do it in a way that made them feel great about paying me $1200 for doing a difficult and dangerous stunt. It's like a magic show, people should get their money's worth, and I aim to please.
I get it.
You did an $800 tree job, and you put on a $400 performance.
My customers are generally at work, and just want to come home to a clean yard.
the Aerialist
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It was a $400 job and an $800 performance!
Well most times yes, but these guys were home and they cleaned their own yard, that's why I offered them a 50% discount from the $2400 a tree that size would normally cost them.
(I knew what you meant by "HO" I was being facetious)
Well most times yes, but these guys were home and they cleaned their own yard, that's why I offered them a 50% discount from the $2400 a tree that size would normally cost them.
(I knew what you meant by "HO" I was being facetious)
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What the hell was that.. it too old to be a Greenhorn.. maybe a Greyhorn??
I see why one handing is so frowned upon now.. Jeezus!
Grace Tree
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What the hell was that.. it too old to be a Greenhorn.. maybe a Greyhorn??
I see why one handing is so frowned upon now.. Jeezus!
Yep. That was a magic show that was a little hard to watch. Nice camera work, though.
Phil
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Sawing a lady in half ...
I've got better cameras now though, you should see some of my newer stuff. Say, would you care to elaborate on that comment? What made it so hard to watch? Was it the way I got my saw stuck demonstrating using plunge cuts on big wood so that you don't get your saw stuck?
I've got better cameras now though, you should see some of my newer stuff. Say, would you care to elaborate on that comment? What made it so hard to watch? Was it the way I got my saw stuck demonstrating using plunge cuts on big wood so that you don't get your saw stuck?
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Well, some don't get it and this is a good example. Have fun with your post's Aerial, I will just read.
Jeff
Jeff
I didn't want to jump on the bandwagon picking fights with you, but I consider a plunge cut dangerous and pointless in that scenario. Stick a wedge in the top-cut before it closes, and just keep going down.
Easy, fast, and safe.
Easy, fast, and safe.
