indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Andy and FatGuy, you may be right, I totally respect your opinion, those above our pay grade need to decide to delete the forum or support moving the post about mods to it.
Did you know there was a modified work saw forum?
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tanker
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Pretty much what I meant in my earlier post. Scott
indiansprings
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Good point possum, hit you with some rep for reasonable debate. With the new rewards system you just make another post for more reward, lol (just kidding)
I do agree that if it is not going to be used, they should delete the forum.
I do agree that if it is not going to be used, they should delete the forum.
I knew it was there and just yesterday I asked a question and it still hasn't been answered... So I think we/they should get rid of it... JMO... It just doesn't have the traffic... As long as it has a factory chain saw engine than it should be ok to put it in the chain saw forum... If it has a dirt bike engine it should go in to the hot saw forum... Again JMO...
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Diesel, hear you loud and clear, but if it was the only place modding discussions were to be posted, don't you agree it would grow if popularity in a very,very short time frame. It would make it viable, rather than the dark cellar it is now.
There is always a high resistance to change, I'm as guilty as anyone, but this area could be shaped pretty much by those interested in modding.
There is always a high resistance to change, I'm as guilty as anyone, but this area could be shaped pretty much by those interested in modding.
What's wrong with having modded chainsaws in the chainsaw forum? Plenty of folk in the chainsaw forum do care about modded saws. Why should they have to hunt up another forum to find the content they want? If you don't care for the content, simply move on to the next thread, as you would with anything else.
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You are right, Thanks for mentioning that, I was going to bring it up myself.
I did indeed post in the chainsaw forum, but only after spending time in the modded work saw forum. I would have rather posted in the MWS form.
Think of the forums like books, I would rather have several different books, each detailed in it's content than one big book that has much more content but alot less order ease of use.
The reason this subject even arose was because a bunch of recreational hobby loggers where #####ing about their chainsaws and their chainsaws ability to go fast.
How stupid does that sound?
How stupid does that sound?
Don't we all love chainsaws... What is the difference. I like stock saws just as much as I like modded ones... So if all the saw builders go over to the Modded Work saw Forum than the chainsaw forum will slow down and the questions will go unanswered...
wse8562
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See my explanation of the history of the Hotsaws sub-forum.
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Brad, first thanks for the reasonable debate. Why can't it work? It would grow in popularity only second to the general chainsaw forum. As 056 said it's like chapters in a book, it would give a centralized place for people interested in modding to refer to. A condensed area for this knowledge to be shared without any other distraction.
It really shouldn't be a sub area of hot saws, but its own forum listed right under the general chainsaw forum on the menu. There is really no downside too it. People who modd or who are in the business will certainly be highlighted as they will be the ones providing the information and sharing their knowledge. You and I both are smart enough to realize there are many with totally different views concerning porting, those who would come to the modded saw section and start the **** storms of recent should be dealt with severly, it would separate a lot of those who have opposite views. I think it would benefit you personally.
I believe there is enough people with an interest in modding for a forum on the topic to stand on it's own, if it dosen't (which would shock me) then it could be moved back to the general saw forum, if enough time was allowed for it to grow.
I think it would take off like a rocket.
Ever think why Stihl and some other biggies are not sponsors, especially those that are publicly held companies. If they were seen supporting a site that is so transparent on the topic of modding, shareholders would be screaming as they have the tree huggers as shareholders and on the board as well. I've worked for publicly held companies all my life, they are constantly worried about who and what they support based on public reaction, it's actually comical to hear some of the reasoning that goes on why not to support this or that organization.
A modded saw forum neatly tucks away those discussions, were they are not so blatant. This sight is big enough with thousands viewing it daily, it's not a little start up sight on the net anymore.
Just my thoughts, they may be incorrect, made plently of mistakes in my life.
I do respect your opinion on the topic, it's just good sensible debate, not the name calling hell raising post of late. I can agree to disagree if you can.
It really shouldn't be a sub area of hot saws, but its own forum listed right under the general chainsaw forum on the menu. There is really no downside too it. People who modd or who are in the business will certainly be highlighted as they will be the ones providing the information and sharing their knowledge. You and I both are smart enough to realize there are many with totally different views concerning porting, those who would come to the modded saw section and start the **** storms of recent should be dealt with severly, it would separate a lot of those who have opposite views. I think it would benefit you personally.
I believe there is enough people with an interest in modding for a forum on the topic to stand on it's own, if it dosen't (which would shock me) then it could be moved back to the general saw forum, if enough time was allowed for it to grow.
I think it would take off like a rocket.
Ever think why Stihl and some other biggies are not sponsors, especially those that are publicly held companies. If they were seen supporting a site that is so transparent on the topic of modding, shareholders would be screaming as they have the tree huggers as shareholders and on the board as well. I've worked for publicly held companies all my life, they are constantly worried about who and what they support based on public reaction, it's actually comical to hear some of the reasoning that goes on why not to support this or that organization.
A modded saw forum neatly tucks away those discussions, were they are not so blatant. This sight is big enough with thousands viewing it daily, it's not a little start up sight on the net anymore.
Just my thoughts, they may be incorrect, made plently of mistakes in my life.
I do respect your opinion on the topic, it's just good sensible debate, not the name calling hell raising post of late. I can agree to disagree if you can.
zogger
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--I keep looking for the "stock saws, of reasonably recent vintage and still being manufactured, keep 'em running because you really need to go cut wood" forum and can only find mostly the hot rod and home saw antique mausoleum forum.
Not that there's a thing wrong with hotrodding or restoration of real old antiques...just not all of us are that type of chainsaw owner or user. Although I would occasionally need or want to peruse one or the other, most of the time, the information isn't applicable to my needs (like anyone here, just speaking for myself and what I want from a chainsaw forum). I'd certainly prefer more appropriate subforums to be used for the various niches.
Not chainsaw related, but similar...I run an old wheelhorse garden tractor, to actually work a garden. I had this idea a few years ago now to try and find one local to me, perhaps with a dead engine, to turn it into electric drive, as I have a donor machine with all the electric drive stuff, the motors and controllers, etc. So, I have been looking..and looking.....the prices are ridiculous, the "pullin" and "home barn mausoleum, must own 50 lil baby tractors that just sit there and be shiny" guys have created such a demand they are ridiculous in price, even well used. I don't even look anymore, every time I do they are even higher. If I run into one sitting in the weeds someplace, I'll make an offer to the owner, but the craigslist and 'bay speculator and collector prices..pass, they can have 'em.
No idea if this is affecting chainsaw prices or not, this situation but it is similar I would think. Perhaps not..but perhaps. Increased demand always drives up prices if the supply keeps getting less and less.
--I keep looking for the "stock saws, of reasonably recent vintage and still being manufactured, keep 'em running because you really need to go cut wood" forum and can only find mostly the hot rod and home saw antique mausoleum forum.
Not that there's a thing wrong with hotrodding or restoration of real old antiques...just not all of us are that type of chainsaw owner or user. Although I would occasionally need or want to peruse one or the other, most of the time, the information isn't applicable to my needs (like anyone here, just speaking for myself and what I want from a chainsaw forum). I'd certainly prefer more appropriate subforums to be used for the various niches.
Not chainsaw related, but similar...I run an old wheelhorse garden tractor, to actually work a garden. I had this idea a few years ago now to try and find one local to me, perhaps with a dead engine, to turn it into electric drive, as I have a donor machine with all the electric drive stuff, the motors and controllers, etc. So, I have been looking..and looking.....the prices are ridiculous, the "pullin" and "home barn mausoleum, must own 50 lil baby tractors that just sit there and be shiny" guys have created such a demand they are ridiculous in price, even well used. I don't even look anymore, every time I do they are even higher. If I run into one sitting in the weeds someplace, I'll make an offer to the owner, but the craigslist and 'bay speculator and collector prices..pass, they can have 'em.
No idea if this is affecting chainsaw prices or not, this situation but it is similar I would think. Perhaps not..but perhaps. Increased demand always drives up prices if the supply keeps getting less and less.
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Gotta do this debating think more often 3 nova's in thirty minutes.lol
I pretty much knew it would head in this direction, but the question I asked was not about what should go where...I was wondering if others had been in the dark about that forum (as I was), and thought I'd give it some publicity.
My assumption was that it gets less traffic because not many people know about it. It certainly is a popular topic.
Seeing as the focus has drifted from awareness to allocation, I don't think any Draconian banning of porting threads in the chainsaw forum is necessary or advisable. From my perspective, it's a simple matter of wanting to see more porting threads in the modded work saws forum, not less in the chainsaw forum. The reason is simple: anyone wanting to search for mods to a particular model of saw would get a useful return in that forum, and pages full of irrelevant threads in this forum.
It would be a more helpful forum in that regard. I think it's a cool forum to have, but I don't see why someone couldn't post in the main forum as well if they wanted a different target audience. I do find it amusing that people act as though the modded work saw forum is a hazardous 5-day journey from the chainsaw forum.
Lastly, I'll assume those that are suggesting this thread is off topic are joking. How is "did you know there is a place on AS dedicated to modifying chainsaws" off-topic in the AS chainsaw forum?
My assumption was that it gets less traffic because not many people know about it. It certainly is a popular topic.
Seeing as the focus has drifted from awareness to allocation, I don't think any Draconian banning of porting threads in the chainsaw forum is necessary or advisable. From my perspective, it's a simple matter of wanting to see more porting threads in the modded work saws forum, not less in the chainsaw forum. The reason is simple: anyone wanting to search for mods to a particular model of saw would get a useful return in that forum, and pages full of irrelevant threads in this forum.
It would be a more helpful forum in that regard. I think it's a cool forum to have, but I don't see why someone couldn't post in the main forum as well if they wanted a different target audience. I do find it amusing that people act as though the modded work saw forum is a hazardous 5-day journey from the chainsaw forum.
Lastly, I'll assume those that are suggesting this thread is off topic are joking. How is "did you know there is a place on AS dedicated to modifying chainsaws" off-topic in the AS chainsaw forum?
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Yep, saw modding back in the sub forum.
Old saws in their own.
Oils, chains, repairs, how to's etc, give'm all a sub forum.
A b!tch'n sub forum.
Time of the month forum.
Old saws in their own.
Oils, chains, repairs, how to's etc, give'm all a sub forum.
A b!tch'n sub forum.
Time of the month forum.
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
I don't think any Draconian banning of porting threads in the chainsaw forum is necessary or advisable. Edisto
I concur 110%, that is not what I am advocating at all. It would not serve the site or the members if that happened.
I concur 110%, that is not what I am advocating at all. It would not serve the site or the members if that happened.
I know you weren't. Some of the angst-ridden responses seem to indicate that that is what was proposed.
I think that the points you have made are excellent, and well-presented.
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komatsuvarna
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:hmm3grin2orange: The only one you left out is ''The steel wrestling cage'' forum.
JMO, which dont mean much, I dont care where the modded saws go too. Ill follow. If every one in the chainsaw forum want to read about which 50cc saw is the best, will a 50cc saw pull a 28'' bar, what kind of 2 smoke oil is the best,and the like, Maybe we should go to the MWS forum. They wont have to read about ported saws, and we wont have to read about which bar oil is the best......which who says you have to open the thread anyways??:monkey:
indiansprings
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JMO, which dont mean much, I dont care where the modded saws go too.
Thanks for making my point, the modded saw forum would grow immediately as soon as it became a focal point for the modded threads.
Thanks for making my point, the modded saw forum would grow immediately as soon as it became a focal point for the modded threads.
