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edisto

edisto

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I do have a brand new Meteor P&C i could slap on it, but i think id be shooting myself in the foot. Lets just say it's not up to OEM quality. :(

That's disappointing. I saw Bailey's had 'em, and thought there might be a low buck way into this deal.

Any details?
 
wigglesworth

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That's disappointing. I saw Bailey's had 'em, and thought there might be a low buck way into this deal.

Any details?

The casting says "Italy" on the side, and has the "MP" logo on it, but I think it's te same exact jug as the woodland pro. Looks identical. Lots, and I mean lots of casting flash, enough in the squish band I had to recut it to make it usable the lower transfers were little bitty, as well as very crooked, and the lower exhaust port had a huge casting void right at the cylinder wall. All the things i mention though are fairly easily fixed though. If I understood grande dog correctly, they were cast in tiawan and plated by gilardoni in Italy. I have several pics but I'm pic illiterate since the site change. I will try to work on it.

I will say this though, the plating is fantastic. Very nice, even and with only a slight "dark ring of death" at the top. Thumbs up there. And it has a nice, small, very well machined combustion chamber.
 
edisto

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The casting says "Italy" on the side, and has the "MP" logo on it, but I think it's te same exact jug as the woodland pro. Looks identical. Lots, and I mean lots of casting flash, enough in the squish band I had to recut it to make it usable the lower transfers were little bitty, as well as very crooked, and the lower exhaust port had a huge casting void right at the cylinder wall. All the things i mention though are fairly easily fixed though. If I understood grande dog correctly, they were cast in tiawan and plated by gilardoni in Italy. I have several pics but I'm pic illiterate since the site change. I will try to work on it.

I will say this though, the plating is fantastic. Very nice, even and with only a slight "dark ring of death" at the top. Thumbs up there. And it has a nice, small, very well machined combustion chamber.

Thanks Wiggs! The plating was my main concern. The rest, as you noted, can be dealt with with some elbow grease (although the void sounds troublesome). I don't have a lot of free time, but I do have more time than money!
 
tlandrum

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im at the point that i go strictly oem so that i can stand behind the repair or port work. between the swap section and ebay i find most anything i need reasoable enough to stay oem
 
RiverRat2

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I got home around 3 this afternoon. I just got back from my Bootcamp workout in town. Just now trying to catch up on this thread.
Had a great time and I have to say thanks again to Wendell. He makes pretty good spaghetti:rock:.

LOLOL!!! I bet he does,,,, I make a pretty mean one my ownself takes about 4 hrs minimum just to get the sauce right,,, and Italian sausage or home-made meat balls with Garlic bread and a big old Wop/Greek salad!!!!!! Yeah Buddy!!!!!


Yall are making me hungry,,,

JD,,, have to say it,,, again,,, It was my pleasure to finally meet ya,,,, looking forward to makin a Sconnie event someday and coming up your way see my first cousins,,,, in MN

Maybe we can root ole 04Ultra out of tha farmhouse!!!!
 
outdoorlivin247

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LOLOL!!! I bet he does,,,, I make a pretty mean one my ownself takes about 4 hrs minimum just to get the sauce right,,, and Italian sausage or home-made meat balls with Garlic bread and a big old Wop/Greek salad!!!!!! Yeah Buddy!!!!!


Yall are making me hungry,,,

JD,,, have to say it,,, again,,, It was my pleasure to finally meet ya,,,, looking forward to makin a Sconnie event someday and coming up your way see my first cousins,,,, in MN

Maybe we can root ole 04Ultra out of tha farmhouse!!!!

Good luck with that...:hmm3grin2orange:
 
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you cant buy them off the shelf as a hybrid. there is no definitve proof either way that they run better or worse than the straight up 460.

I have definitive proof- I built a new hybrid 440/460 back in 2002 and ran it side-by-side with a new 460 in bigger timber for five months. The hybrid saw simply did not have the same torque band as the straight up 460, regardless of what carburetor I used or how much the muffler was opened up. Both saws had stock cylinders and pistons. The hybrid saw simply could not do the same work in a day in the same wood with the same bar and chain.

Basically, you need the bigger mixing area found in the larger 046/460 case for that wide torque band.
 
Mastermind

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I have definitive proof- I built a new hybrid 440/460 back in 2002 and ran it side-by-side with a new 460 in bigger timber for five months. The hybrid saw simply did not have the same torque band as the straight up 460, regardless of what carburetor I used or how much the muffler was opened up. Both saws had stock cylinders and pistons. The hybrid saw simply could not do the same work in a day in the same wood with the same bar and chain.

Basically, you need the bigger mixing area found in the larger 046/460 case for that wide torque band.

I like reading real world side by side testing like this. :rock:
 
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I have definitive proof- I built a new hybrid 440/460 back in 2002 and ran it side-by-side with a new 460 in bigger timber for five months. The hybrid saw simply did not have the same torque band as the straight up 460, regardless of what carburetor I used or how much the muffler was opened up. Both saws had stock cylinders and pistons. The hybrid saw simply could not do the same work in a day in the same wood with the same bar and chain.
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Basically, you need the bigger mixing area found in the larger 046/460 case for that wide torque band.

I'll take the torque penalty and still kick the competitions 460s to the curb;)::clap:
 
tlandrum

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ill have to buy a 460 to get into my own build off lol i do by the way already have a 6401 traded for to turn into a 7901. im going to join the 7900 build for sure if i can get this dooly thing figured out. i may just be the sawyer in the 460 build and not enter a saw.
 

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