Big egos and small minds

[Nailsbeats]

Good thread, it needed to be said. When people are allowed to go off on others with blatent disrespect, on lookers with quality input just shy away, and the forum itself suffers the biggest loss.

Nobody wins in these chest beating contests, it's like taking gold at the special olympics, it's only cool to you.:msp_w00t:

 

[husabud]

I am always nice :msp_biggrin:
Jeff

:msp_thumbsup:opcorn:

 

[treeclimber101]

Good thread, it needed to be said. When people are allowed to go off on others with blatent disrespect, on lookers with quality input just shy away, and the forum itself suffers the biggest loss.

Nobody wins in these chest beating contests, it's like taking gold at the special olympics, it's only cool to you.:msp_w00t:

You OD, WLL and a few others youst to run me down regularly , so please........don't even try it and as far as the OP is concerned well we all know him by now and I am sure his ego is still a bit bruised from the saw thread seems fishy how its OK for some to be harsh when it suits them or when they have someone between the cross hairs and can't help to take the shot , if that is the special olympics than the A S boys and gals have plenty of practice and surley will take the gold ....

 

[Nailsbeats]

You OD, WLL and a few others youst to run me down regularly , so please........don't even try it and as far as the OP is concerned well we all know him by now and I am sure his ego is still a bit bruised from the saw thread seems fishy how its OK for some to be harsh when it suits them or when they have someone between the cross hairs and can't help to take the shot , if that is the special olympics than the A S boys and gals have plenty of practice and surley will take the gold ....

101, I don't recall that ever being the case on my end. If it was, then I apologize here and now, because I don't have any beef with you.

 

[treeclimber101]

101, I don't recall that ever being the case on my end. If it was, then I apologize here and now, because I don't have any beef with you.

I am not saying beef because really its doubtful that were gonna fight out back in the alley right , but comments have been made from alot of guys and I am not even the slightest bit actually mad I just think if ya said then own it thats all , But your right were cool really ...

 

[treeclimber101]

101, I don't recall that ever being the case on my end. If it was, then I apologize here and now, because I don't have any beef with you.

I have more of a problem with the OP who has on many occasions has not only provoked but has also drawn out this behavior that offends him now , I came here 2 years ago after reading the Nosak thread and this place hasn't changed a bit just the players .... I guess we should all just sit around and tell each other how great we all are ..... I hope that TV comes back and even OD they are arguably the reason that this section of the site has so many posts

 

[pdqdl]

101, I've been ignoring (mostly) your digs at me for over a year. I just figure that you keep trying to knock me off of some pedestal that you think I am on. Thank you for the grudgingly given respect.

Since this thread is all about eliminating the petty bickering that occurs, I will apologize to you right here and now for any offense that I may have ever aimed at you. I further resolve that I will not pick on you for any composition errors, nor even for any really bad ideas you might propose that I vehemently disagree with.

If you study the Stolen Saw thread, you will find that I did not take any offense at your repeated attempts to get me riled. With respect to that thread, I never even got scratched by anyone who attempted to paint me as the bad guy. If I didn't already expect that kind of response, I wouldn't have posted it. By the way, the detectives told me they would return the confiscated saw to me this week, as the owner has not claimed it, and the prosecution cannot proceed.

 

[treeclimber101]

101, I've been ignoring (mostly) your digs at me for over a year. I just figure that you keep trying to knock me off of some pedestal that you think I am on. Thank you for the grudgingly given respect.

Since this thread is all about eliminating the petty bickering that occurs, I will apologize to you right here and now for any offense that I may have ever aimed at you. I further resolve that I will not pick on you for any composition errors, nor even for any really bad ideas you might propose that I vehemently disagree with.

If you study the Stolen Saw thread, you will find that I did not take any offense at your repeated attempts to get me riled. With respect to that thread, I never even got scratched by anyone who attempted to paint me as the bad guy. If I didn't already expect that kind of response, I wouldn't have posted it. By the way, the detectives told me they would return the confiscated saw to me this week, as the owner has not claimed it, and the prosecution cannot proceed.

For those who doubt me, read here: http://www.arboristsite.com/commercial-tree-care-climbing/174575.htm#post3007478

Pedestal ..... I could actually care less about you either way other than, your this and than that ... But actually i think it may be the pedestal that you put yourself on trying to convince the rests of us that you are a bit better , just saying and your right no need to bicker about we will have to agree to disagree ...

 

[Nailsbeats]

I have more of a problem with the OP who has on many occasions has not only provoked but has also drawn out this behavior that offends him now , I came here 2 years ago after reading the Nosak thread and this place hasn't changed a bit just the players .... I guess we should all just sit around and tell each other how great we all are ..... I hope that TV comes back and even OD they are arguably the reason that this section of the site has so many posts

The truth is that there are a lot of quality tree guys on this site and I count you among them as well as PQDL, OD and WLL (R.I.P) for names sake.

The wisdom and insights that can be shared are just too often muddied by vulgarities and personal rips that are well over the line of respect for each other.

I personally haven't been putting up more stuff because my camera is currently out of commision and without it I don't feel the substance is where it should be, thus not worth discussing.

 

[ForTheArborist]

i am always nice :msp_biggrin:
Jeff

lol

 

[the Aerialist]

I came here to learn ~ Not to fight ...

My appearance here has caused a shatstorm of abuse and less than civil discourse. I've given it back in full measure and for that I apologize to all for being dragged down into the back alley brawls that I've participated in.

I post my out-takes that show some of my less than stellar work because I learn from the critiques I get, not because I want to start flame wars. Here's one now:

[video=youtube;kypHmmh0WiU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypHmmh0WiU[/video]

Any tips on how to avoid that?

 

[jefflovstrom]

Butt tie and don't cut above you.
Jeff

 

[beastmaster]

should of cut from other side. Stuff happens. I took a chunk a few days ago pushed if off and it fell on my foot between ankle and steel toe, while on gaffs. Still have a bruise. It's the easy ones that get you. Beastmaster

 

[the Aerialist]

Good advice from both of you ...

It seemed trivial and I took a short cut. Actually the bridge of my climbing harness caught it, not me, so I got off easy. In this business even the small stuff can hurt you. It pays to be vigilent.

 

[Bermie]

Flame wars and outright disrespectful postings are the reason I took a holiday from AS.
I popped back in to see what was going on and was happy to see some good discussions happening again.

Doing what we do in such a high risk occupation is going to result in some strong opinions, but the strongest in my mind are:

The ability to agree to disagree,
To recognize and accept criticism when it has your safety in mind, separate the language from the concern
To be able to take some flame if you give it...BUT..to know when enough is enough and not respond like with like when someone is way out in left field...been a bit guilty here
To man up and apologize when recognizing that offence has been given,
To come in here with a reasonable level of tolerance for locker room BS

Sometimes, simply due to our differences in personality and experience, we do not recognize that offence has been given, scathing remarks taken easily by one person are hits to the gut for another, postings on the internet are devoid of visual cues unless you pepper them with smilies, and nuances of tone of voice are almost impossible to convey, so you do need to come in with a BS meter and a bit of a thicker skin!

'Kay, that's the emotional girly perspective, lemme go run a chainsaw :msp_smile:

 

[pdqdl]

Don't you generally have trouble "manning up" ? :msp_rolleyes:

I'm so pleased to see you coming back to the fold. You generally have some really spot-on commentary.

 

[Bermie]

I can 'man up' with the best of ya!

Someone has to be 'den sista' from time to time. (no way am I going to say den mother!)

 

[ForTheArborist]

You know there must be about three kinds of posters in this forum.

1. Has a decently formed character, and speaks up a lot.

2. Has character in ruins, and speaks out a lot.

3. Doesn't speak out, and doesn't practice in order to ever be any good at it.


This thread says it all. It says exactly who is who, and the number of guests compared to posters here says how many people are just in the audience.

This place is like a stirred up box of sightless kittens compared to some of the chat forums out there:hmm3grin2orange: Well, ok...this box hosts many more gentlemen per rabid squirrel climbing round in here than other sites, so it's well worth joining everyday. You make the forum what you want it to be. :msp_thumbup:

 

[ForTheArborist]

I can 'man up' with the best of ya!

Someone has to be 'den sista' from time to time. (no way am I going to say den mother!)

More like den monkeys, but....... :monkey:


never mind. Nothing is ever that simple.

 

[Pelorus]

"the number of guests compared to posters here says how many people are just in the audience."

This newbie (not to the industry; just this forum) prefers to keep a low profile for now and just be a spectator in the bleachers. There's a couple of you folks who appear to truly HATE each other! even if it is a fine line between love and hate.

As time goes by, IF I can get the hairs on the back of my neck to stop standing up, I'll post some pics, or whatever.