I have had experienced guys cut on my jobs, I damn sure wouldn't let anyone that I thought might be even remotely capable of making a cut like have at it though. Almost seems like sabotage.
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I have had experienced guys cut on my jobs, I damn sure wouldn't let anyone that I thought might be even remotely capable of making a cut like have at it though. Almost seems like sabotage.
sgreanbeans
Treeaculterologist
Cool beans, gotta love those test, I bet ya passed.
I have been studying the Muni Arborist stuff, got the study guide and have been reading a bunch of different materiel, but I have been lazy about it tho, need to get it done, then all I will need is the big test and I will be a MASTER ARBORIST!
Say it with Steve Martin in mind "Sgt Biko,Master Sergeant" I need to do that HRTA too.
Doing that and getting stuff together for my TCIA stuff is a job in of itself. Too much stuff, not enough time! But it will all pay off in the end, when it comes time to pick us or them, these little pieces of paper we have will go a long way
sgreanbeans
Treeaculterologist
Talking bout turf damage
In my experience, the "no impact to turf" jobs are few and far between, in my area anyways, most people are understanding that your taking a freakin tree out! Don't get me wrong, we make every reasonable attempt to avoid damage. But dirt and seed is cheap and if you know how to run a skid loader, well then you shouldn't have to many problems. If and when we need to worry about the turf, we carry plywood in to where I am to pick the wood up, then I have a turn around. But when going in straight lines, the machine doesn't hurt anything. If it is "no impact" then no machine goes in, its that simple. That's what wheel barrows and dollies are for. As for the truck, if it goes in, so does the wood. no need for a 1000 pieces for the long haul, we lay out double the truck/chipper length and piggy back them til we geter in. Most people are more concerned about hitting their home and could care less about the yard, this doesn't mean that we go in guns a blazin when they tell us we can. When we leave a job, every single time, the yard always looks better than we we got there. I do a lot of back yard forest thinning/land clearing projects, where I am loading out the dump trailer 10-15 times, many, MANY trips back and forth, plywood doesn't help on those, as mud and derbies builds up, they become a skating rink, I go right thru the yard. I bid in damage to turf and have my buddy come in with the hydro seeder and mini skid to fix. Sometimes we sod. As long as they are aware of what you are doing, then all should be well. On little jobs, such as what AA had in the video, we would not even had put a machine in there, that's all stuff someone would have drug to the street with ease. I have brought a lawn mower such as AA's out, on very long hauls to the street for brush, but only when its a super long haul and we have tons of brush. The machine I use for that is a Bieiner 2000, custom built 27hp, blown w/nitrous. Painted by Foose and tuned by Jeese James. Paid 250 for it and it will do everything a 20k stiener will. :hmm3grin2orange:
In my experience, the "no impact to turf" jobs are few and far between, in my area anyways, most people are understanding that your taking a freakin tree out! Don't get me wrong, we make every reasonable attempt to avoid damage. But dirt and seed is cheap and if you know how to run a skid loader, well then you shouldn't have to many problems. If and when we need to worry about the turf, we carry plywood in to where I am to pick the wood up, then I have a turn around. But when going in straight lines, the machine doesn't hurt anything. If it is "no impact" then no machine goes in, its that simple. That's what wheel barrows and dollies are for. As for the truck, if it goes in, so does the wood. no need for a 1000 pieces for the long haul, we lay out double the truck/chipper length and piggy back them til we geter in. Most people are more concerned about hitting their home and could care less about the yard, this doesn't mean that we go in guns a blazin when they tell us we can. When we leave a job, every single time, the yard always looks better than we we got there. I do a lot of back yard forest thinning/land clearing projects, where I am loading out the dump trailer 10-15 times, many, MANY trips back and forth, plywood doesn't help on those, as mud and derbies builds up, they become a skating rink, I go right thru the yard. I bid in damage to turf and have my buddy come in with the hydro seeder and mini skid to fix. Sometimes we sod. As long as they are aware of what you are doing, then all should be well. On little jobs, such as what AA had in the video, we would not even had put a machine in there, that's all stuff someone would have drug to the street with ease. I have brought a lawn mower such as AA's out, on very long hauls to the street for brush, but only when its a super long haul and we have tons of brush. The machine I use for that is a Bieiner 2000, custom built 27hp, blown w/nitrous. Painted by Foose and tuned by Jeese James. Paid 250 for it and it will do everything a 20k stiener will. :hmm3grin2orange:
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
Ok I killed a coyote this mourning with my bow and finished skinning the doe from yesterday evening
Do we skin and eat the coyote too? Don't taste so good? Maybe a little ketchup?
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treemandan
Tree Freak
What is that leak under there?:msp_unsure:
the Aerialist
Addicted to ArboristSite
Well said beans, but you didn't get the whole picture ...
You only saw a short video of one trip. What is not shown is the uphill haul out of the woodlot that the dead Oak was in. We also cleared out a lot of brush that had accumulated over the years in the wooded backyard of an immaculately landscaped property. We made far more trips hauling the entire Oak out but also tons of other accumulated tree debris. It was at least a quarter mile to the dump and chipper.
The stuff we hand unloaded was left as firewood for one of the neighbors, they all got some as part of the deal for hauling everything out through their backyards.
I'd like to see a photo of that Beaner 2000, but blower and nitrous to get one more horsepower than my stock Steiner seems pointless.
You only saw a short video of one trip. What is not shown is the uphill haul out of the woodlot that the dead Oak was in. We also cleared out a lot of brush that had accumulated over the years in the wooded backyard of an immaculately landscaped property. We made far more trips hauling the entire Oak out but also tons of other accumulated tree debris. It was at least a quarter mile to the dump and chipper.
The stuff we hand unloaded was left as firewood for one of the neighbors, they all got some as part of the deal for hauling everything out through their backyards.
I'd like to see a photo of that Beaner 2000, but blower and nitrous to get one more horsepower than my stock Steiner seems pointless.
LLC & carry insurance............Yeah!! you train your employees? after what we all saw I dont know that I would admit to that if I were you?
I can understand wanting to ring someones neck for stupidity......agree with you there, However in todays world that can be very expensive!! So you have fired people.............how nice! If I worked for you that tree wouldnt have landed where it did & to boot I doubt you could afford me?
LXT...................
Why didnt you video the uphill haul? show us all what the machine can really do & where it can go....thats what we wanna see! Not some Vid that a 12yr old boy could be used to haul out the debris.....!
1/4 mile................C`mon, in your area a 1/4 mile would put you in the next town!!! Im thinking the truth is that the steiner was used for that one load..........otherwise & knowing you........you would have made it a point to showcase such a feat by the steiner that the video would be airing in china right now!!!
LXT...............
treevet
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TreeAce
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Pretty as a daisy...but look out man shes CRAZY!! LOL...I like that. I gonna keep it mind.
The weather here suks. Rain for last three days. Gonna work tomorrow though, taken down a mid sized oak next to a swim pool. I will take some pictures. The only good thing about this weather that I can see is that I got to bust out my double thick full zip!! Can I get a helllllll YYaaaaaa
The weather here suks. Rain for last three days. Gonna work tomorrow though, taken down a mid sized oak next to a swim pool. I will take some pictures. The only good thing about this weather that I can see is that I got to bust out my double thick full zip!! Can I get a helllllll YYaaaaaa
TreeAce
Addicted to ArboristSite
I am wondering why so many people are flaming the crap outa stihl.logger??? The dude is trying to share whats goin on with him and people freakn tear into him. OBV the employer is ultimatly responsible for what there employees do but damn fellas.....I mean by him sharing what happened I know it helps me by making me think about stuff on my end....like how glad I am I fired a dude last fall becuz he was a lazy douche (sometimes, alittle to much) . IDK...I think some here are alittle carried away with finger pointing at what he shoulda done or that he shoulda known ahead of time that the dude could be so stupid?? Maybe...but some guys just say what u wanna hear then do stupid **** after u leave, I mean sometimes u just dont know FOR SURE wtf they may pull. Maybe dude was in a hurry , wanted to get home for some dumb reason or maybe a good reason...we dont know. But I do know you cant be there all the time and I think stihl.logger had every reason to believe he could trust this guy to do what HE HAD BEEN TOLD to do....I think ripping into him just discourges others from sharing similiar things that maybe helpful to others, even if only in a small way.
I agree with you TreeAce. Everything rolls downhill to the owner but you have to have some faith in your employees. This employee sounds like he should have been gone a while ago though.
Nobody, hardly even relatives are worth #####ing with for 45 minutes! F That! 5 minutes tops to explain how he f'd up and how he can better himself or GTFO. To bring up your wife though, I think you let this guy get too close to your personal business to even consider bringing that up. Keep them at arms length at all times:taped:
Nobody, hardly even relatives are worth #####ing with for 45 minutes! F That! 5 minutes tops to explain how he f'd up and how he can better himself or GTFO. To bring up your wife though, I think you let this guy get too close to your personal business to even consider bringing that up. Keep them at arms length at all times:taped:
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Do we skin and eat the coyote too? Don't taste so good? Maybe a little ketchup?
Lol no the coyote was purely predation control , ya see there is only room for one predator on rope ranch and dat b me
I saved ten turkeys and no telling how many fawns killing the #####female yote!Treeace.......I agree with ya, however.......there are certain things we all know ya just cant do, I woulda loved to beat some of my guys with the rake handle they broke, we all have had our share of idiots & I guess when you come on here & show something like what he did.........Well..., no matter who drops a tree on someones house, garage or other, ultimately the company looks bad.
this is one of those instances where you make a decision to fire or to keep & go with it!!! however if the guy busted on his wife, cant say I wouldnt of showed him the closed door with his face either! this is a good learning topic & I think it took guts to post about it!!! I guess my questions came about being legit cuz most of those type of accidents happen to the hacks around here & then a reputable service is stuck rescuing the home owner!
LXT.............
this is one of those instances where you make a decision to fire or to keep & go with it!!! however if the guy busted on his wife, cant say I wouldnt of showed him the closed door with his face either! this is a good learning topic & I think it took guts to post about it!!! I guess my questions came about being legit cuz most of those type of accidents happen to the hacks around here & then a reputable service is stuck rescuing the home owner!
LXT.............
For the record, I wasn't flaming him. Jesus.. the stump pic though, that really is pretty bad. Looks like he tried coming at it with one of them little eager beaver deals they had back when!`
TreeAce
Addicted to ArboristSite
It is very possible I used the term "flaming" to loosely. And ya, that stump is freakn terrible......NO doubt about that.
treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
You answered your own question .....:bang:
treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
8:30 am then a pic at 10:30am then the last @ 2:00pm we stung that job hard View attachment 203763View attachment 203765View attachment 203766
swyman
ArboristSite Operative
Stuck in the bucket?
Did a 3 tree trim at a residence today and for the last week my truck has started to skip.a beat u guess you could call it. Just driving down the road its like you turn the key off and then back on. I know its electrical cause when it does it the wait to start dash light comes on (97 international 444) well did it.a couple times on way to job and while trimming the last tree it did it and stalled while 40' up? Guess I don't go alone on jobs anymore but any ideas?
Did a 3 tree trim at a residence today and for the last week my truck has started to skip.a beat u guess you could call it. Just driving down the road its like you turn the key off and then back on. I know its electrical cause when it does it the wait to start dash light comes on (97 international 444) well did it.a couple times on way to job and while trimming the last tree it did it and stalled while 40' up? Guess I don't go alone on jobs anymore but any ideas?
ducaticorse
Addicted to ArboristSite
Yeah, learn how to self rescue. And get your motor checked out. Could be a coil.
