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2treeornot2tree said:
Well seeing since i added the hydraulic down pressure to my chipper it chips as good or better then a new one. You can only feed brush so fast into the chipper. Now when i got 2-3 guys standing around waiting for me to grind a stump for 2 hours, that is costing me money. You work alone most of the time, so for you if it takes you 6 hours to grind a stump no big deal. For me that 6 hours would cost me $400 in wages, workers comp.
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Have you considered a high horsepower tow behind? Granted you can't put them everywhere you can the little guys but they are a hell of a lot cheaper, plus you'll still have the junior if you need it. Just a thought.
 
Blakesmaster said:
Have you considered a high horsepower tow behind? Granted you can't put them everywhere you can the little guys but they are a hell of a lot cheaper, plus you'll still have the junior if you need it. Just a thought.
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I have thought about the tow behinds, but I think a self propelled would be better. I don't want to have two Stumpers. I already have enough things to maintain. I have a guy that's gonna buy my junior for $8000 so I want to unload it while I still can get that much on it. I can rent a small machine around here at multiple places if I need to.
 
2treeornot2tree said:
I have thought about the tow behinds, but I think a self propelled would be better. I don't want to have two Stumpers. I already have enough things to maintain. I have a guy that's gonna buy my junior for $8000 so I want to unload it while I still can get that much on it. I can rent a small machine around here at multiple places if I need to.
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I guess I see what you're saying. Stumpers don't require a lot of maintenance though, IMO. Fresh teeth and good grease keeps them going. Most of my big stumps end up being easy access or I take out a fence or whatever to make them easy access. Just tossing out ideas. High horse self propelled grinders ( if you can find them used ) seem to be running at least 30% more than comparable horse tow behinds from what I've found. 15-20K will get you a halfway decent tow behind in the 75 horse category, not so with self propelled.
 
Blakesmaster said:
I guess I see what you're saying. Stumpers don't require a lot of maintenance though, IMO. Fresh teeth and good grease keeps them going. Most of my big stumps end up being easy access or I take out a fence or whatever to make them easy access. Just tossing out ideas. High horse self propelled grinders ( if you can find them used ) seem to be running at least 30% more than comparable horse tow behinds from what I've found. 15-20K will get you a halfway decent tow behind in the 75 horse category, not so with self propelled.
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I dunno, it seems to me that stumpers are one of the things that require the most maintenance and repair. It seems that to make any profit you need to buy one that is overkill and get a lot of stumps ground before the bearings blow.

If you can get a good tow behind for that kind of money then I would go for that and use the mini to push it in when you need to. It's hard to believe they are that cheap compared to 40k for a bigger self propelled.

Even when using the biggest grinder on the planet is agonizing for the guy who is watching.
 
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Blakesmaster said:
I guess I see what you're saying. Stumpers don't require a lot of maintenance though, IMO. Fresh teeth and good grease keeps them going. Most of my big stumps end up being easy access or I take out a fence or whatever to make them easy access. Just tossing out ideas. High horse self propelled grinders ( if you can find them used ) seem to be running at least 30% more than comparable horse tow behinds from what I've found. 15-20K will get you a halfway decent tow behind in the 75 horse category, not so with self propelled.
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I found a 2005 Carlton 8018 with 500 hours for $29,000. Thought that was a good deal for a grinder that size
 
Blakesmaster said:
Yeah, that sounds like a good buy.
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You would get a tow behind? I guess in some places if it was a lot flatter than here they would be ok but I have a lot of stumps to do right now and it would be a nightmare to get to anyone of them with a tow behind. They are way cheaper tho. an 8018 is gonna be pretty bad ass from a little rayco.

It's funny how depending on your area how companies favor different equipment. I'm sure it has things to do with tree size,terrain , and so on.
But I have personally ( in person) never seen a tree company using a mini, but when you get on here it seems like everyone has them.
 
mattfr12 said:
You would get a tow behind? I guess in some places if it was a lot flatter than here they would be ok but I have a lot of stumps to do right now and it would be a nightmare to get to anyone of them with a tow behind. They are way cheaper tho. an 8018 is gonna be pretty bad ass from a little rayco.

It's funny how depending on your area how companies favor different equipment. I'm sure it has things to do with tree size,terrain , and so on.
But I have personally ( in person) never seen a tree company using a mini, but when you get on here it seems like everyone has them.
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It's not that I don't get into stumps on grades like in your video regularly but the majority of my large stumps have access, or I make access. I already have a walk behind stumper that will go everywhere as well as a good ( cheap ) sub with a superjunior for bigger stumps in tight areas. My tow behind is an old 35 horse 630B and it gets used the most.

I think part of mini's popularity is their price. They are a great entry level loader that also has the benefit of fitting into tight areas. I've worked my mini harder than anyone should the past few years and it only cost $7500 when I bought it. Even if I get a big skidsteer I'll keep the mini around and be happy for it when I need it.

Like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEpsqUB9WNo
 
mattfr12 said:
This is pretty comon around here to do stuff like this with grinders ill post some pictures in here of today's hill. But even the track machine at some pointe won't spin or move the tracks due to not being able to put enough power down.

Bulldog Tree Care Climbing A Steep Incline With There New 2450xp - YouTube
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matt I assure you here is just as hilly and I use a tow behind sc602 for everything . I have had maybe 5 stumps out of 300 I can't reach that I will rent a 252 on. I purchased mine mainly for golf course work and at that I'm twice as fast than any walk behind. 45 to 100 stumps spread out. Of course I can back it blindfolded :)
 
treeclimber101 said:
Why not forks instead of a grapple for wood , sure seems like wasted weight . And I can lift it higher with the mini
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With my mini, the grapple, and forks weight about the same. I like using the grapple better to move logs because i can squezze them and the log doesnt move around like it does while on the forks. I use the forks when i get a log to large to get into the grapple, if i got them with me. Often, i will just use a chain around the log and lift it with the grapple. Sometimes if the log is to big, i take off the grapple, and chain the log right to the attachment mount.
 
From today 10 stumps I have no idea how you would get a tow behind to. My bobcat couldn't pull a trailer up the hills to get behind them. The first hill up into the yard required a come along and that machine is 4x4. Around here I don't think I would do a non 4x4 bucket or stumper anymore.

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ropensaddle said:
matt I assure you here is just as hilly and I use a tow behind sc602 for everything . I have had maybe 5 stumps out of 300 I can't reach that I will rent a 252 on. I purchased mine mainly for golf course work and at that I'm twice as fast than any walk behind. 45 to 100 stumps spread out. Of course I can back it blindfolded :)
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I know they are fast less components allow for a lot more $$ to go to hp instead of tracks and so on. I personally have never seen a company use one around here.
 
Just got home 29 hours after i left to pick up the grinder. I am very pleased.

The guys down at Globel Equipment Exports are a great bunch of guys. The grinder was exactly as described, and Randy is very knowledgeable. When I buy my next piece of equipment from them, I know its gonna come as described, and I will just have them ship it to me. I would highly recommend dealing with them if you need any equipment.

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Just call me MR. DOUCHEBAG, cause this is going in my custys yards. :hmm3grin2orange:
 

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