Nik's Poulan Thread

[Acornhill]

Hi Guys,

What are the normal methods for removing carbon from pistons and exhaust ports?

Many thanks,

Lee I use an old pop sickle stick shop vac and air gun and lots of pateince.

 

[homelitejim]

Black goo is exactly what I ended up with.. Was no fun to clean out.
I went with the clear line that I could grab from my local auto parts place since my saw shop was closed by that time.
I'll see if I can find the carb kit locally, otherwise it'll be evilbay...

Any thoughts on .404 bars? Or would I be better served swapping it over to 3/8?

Bailey's and the oregon site don't show any listings for .404 for the saw.

I was wondering who would get that saw, luckily I was short of funds. Ace Valley Power Tool or Inland Saw will have your kit, on the bar, I have a NOS 36" .404 Poulan bar here I may let go, PM me if interested, this bar has never had chain on it.

I had planned on putting it on my 8500 but I think the NOS 28's would be a better fit for me.

 

[nthums1]

That top muffler with the front outlet is the "chainbrake" muffler and is useally found on chainbrake equipped saws.

That sounds reasonable and yours is a chainbrake. Mine is not. And since chainbrakes become more common it would seem the old style muffler would be the one that is only available. Unless they are running out of parts and not making any more.
I've been doing a bit of part checking and as of now I may have to go with what you received, ordering the entire muffler.
Have you noticed any changes with the new style?
It appears the exhaust hole on the new style is about half the size of the earlier muffler.
Almost forgot to ask. It looks like you changed the muffler bolts as well. 380 & 3500 list different bolts on IPL. It would seem they just decided to move from hex head bolts to torx. That might be handy for assembly line but after the heads get rusty like that old muffler it might be hard to get them out.

Did I mention that I eliminated my loosening, from running, of those bolts with Loctite? I won't use quite as much when I put it back together this time.

 

[OhioGregg]

Well I got some wood cut this weekend and took my favorite PP365 to do most of it. I acually did use the 365 more then I wanted to, as the 2300CVA was having some chain throwing fits. I'll have to figure that out later, I never really had a saw give me trouble with that.

Got a pretty good load of White Oak hauled home.

Mark, My old bones, and other body parts ache this morning just looking at that.:msp_ohmy: I almost dread the first time out cutting this spring, after not doing any of that all winter. I probably won't be able to get out of bed the next day.


Gregg,

 

[OhioGregg]

That sounds reasonable and yours is a chainbrake. Mine is not. And since chainbrakes become more common it would seem the old style muffler would be the one that is only available. Unless they are running out of parts and not making any more.
I've been doing a bit of part checking and as of now I may have to go with what you received, ordering the entire muffler.
Have you noticed any changes with the new style?
It appears the exhaust hole on the new style is about half the size of the earlier muffler.
Almost forgot to ask. It looks like you changed the muffler bolts as well. 380 & 3500 list different bolts on IPL. It would seem they just decided to move from hex head bolts to torx. That might be handy for assembly line but after the heads get rusty like that old muffler it might be hard to get them out.

Did I mention that I eliminated my loosening, from running, of those bolts with Loctite? I won't use quite as much when I put it back together this time.

Funny you mention the muffler bolts coming loose. The first time I had the saw in wood, doing actual work, I had one jump ship. Didn't realize it for a while. Eventually found it it the saw dust/chips with a metal detector. Put it back together, and havn't had a bit of trouble since.

As far as the new muffler goes. Inside there is a tube that runs over to the outlet. I think I have seen some pics in the past, probably from Mark, or Kevin (Jeremiah Johnson) where they cut most of that tube out, to help with the flow.


Gregg,

 

[OhioGregg]

nthums1,

Here is a video of my old PP380 in action. Will probably bore these other guys to death, cause I posted it before. But you being kinda new here, probably have not seen it.. Its all stock, nothing done to it other than opening up the muffler a little.

[video=youtube;mZqXWWRCd5M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mZqXWWRCd5M[/video]


Gregg,

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Well I got some wood cut this weekend and took my favorite PP365 to do most of it. I acually did use the 365 more then I wanted to, as the 2300CVA was having some chain throwing fits. I'll have to figure that out later, I never really had a saw give me trouble with that.

Got a pretty good load of White Oak hauled home.

I didn't see a log splitter...you didn't split that by hand, did you?

 

[redunshee]

nthums1,

Here is a video of my old PP380 in action. Will probably bore these other guys to death, cause I posted it before. But you being kinda new here, probably have not seen it.. Its all stock, nothing done to it other than opening up the muffler a little.

[video=youtube;mZqXWWRCd5M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mZqXWWRCd5M[/video]


Gregg,

Gregg always love that vid. Looks like Ash. Is it?

Bob

 

[dboyd351]

nthums1,

Here is a video of my old PP380 in action. Will probably bore these other guys to death, cause I posted it before. But you being kinda new here, probably have not seen it.. Its all stock, nothing done to it other than opening up the muffler a little.

[video=youtube;mZqXWWRCd5M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mZqXWWRCd5M[/video]


Gregg,

That saw cuts nice Gregg!

 

[OhioGregg]

I didn't see a log splitter...you didn't split that by hand, did you?

:msp_lol:

Gregg always love that vid. Looks like Ash. Is it?

Bob

Yes it is Bob. Thats about all I have been cutting the last several years. EAB hit this area bad. Hope to get to a bunch of Oak this year also. Red & White.


Gregg,

 

[OhioGregg]

That saw cuts nice Gregg!

Thanks, It don't do half bad. The 380 gets used quite a bit, its my "light weight" saw. A 4000 & a 4200 do the rest. If I get into some BIG stuff, I will use a bigger saw sometimes, or just because I want to.


Gregg,

 

[fossil]

Hi Guys,

What are the normal methods for removing carbon from pistons and exhaust ports?

Many thanks,

Lee

Lee, If you get tired of scraping it off, try some Hoppes #9 gun powder solvent. Works quite well.

 

[homelitejim]

I picked this little 2150 up at the scrap for $2 and it fired right up but was missing the oilier. Well I picked up another with the oilier for $2 and swapped it out, still no oil. Took it apart and the gear in the oilier has some missing teeth so back to square one. All the other ones I have picked up are strato saws with inboard clutches, I am assuming that they use a bid different pump. This saw had a MM when I got it and it runs great, would make a great 4 wheeler saw as conditions tend to be extreme on the back of my 4 wheeler and I hate putting expensive saws back there. I will be looking today to find a good oilier but it has been slow or more folks are hitting my spots.

 

[Kostas]

I picked this little 2150 up at the scrap for $2 and it fired right up but was missing the oilier. Well I picked up another with the oilier for $2 and swapped it out, still no oil. Took it apart and the gear in the oilier has some missing teeth so back to square one. All the other ones I have picked up are strato saws with inboard clutches, I am assuming that they use a bid different pump. This saw had a MM when I got it and it runs great, would make a great 4 wheeler saw as conditions tend to be extreme on the back of my 4 wheeler and I hate putting expensive saws back there. I will be looking today to find a good oilier but it has been slow or more folks are hitting my spots.

nice little saws.I have a 2250,the only Poulan that came in Greece.Is identical with yours but has anivibe and chain brake.I use it all the time for small stuff.It makes my friend's ms211 looking like a toy.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Mark, My old bones, and other body parts ache this morning just looking at that.:msp_ohmy: I almost dread the first time out cutting this spring, after not doing any of that all winter. I probably won't be able to get out of bed the next day.


Gregg,

What makes you think I was able to get out of bed this morning ? LOL

I had some help on these trees so it wasn't too bad and being yard trees I could drive right next to them and that helped.

I didn't see a log splitter...you didn't split that by hand, did you?

Just cause you don't see it don't mean there isn't one. LOL I ain't that tough anymore.

I would pay good money to watch one of the soft wood guys who swear by there Fiskers try to show me how fast they could split this hard and stringy White Oak.

 

[nthums1]

Thanks, It don't do half bad. The 380 gets used quite a bit, its my "light weight" saw. A 4000 & a 4200 do the rest. If I get into some BIG stuff, I will use a bigger saw sometimes, or just because I want to.


Gregg,

Light-weight? Maybe I'm getting old. I'd hate to use mine for limbing and brush. That is why I keep the old Homelite XL, UT10655 plastic case. Even thinking of getting new coil so I can fire up the 2750, hoping I'll see enough weight saving without loosing to much punch.

My computer would show me nothing but a blank white square where video should be. I got to see it on iPod. I'm assuming that is new style muffler. Could be camera positioning, but mine barks a lot louder. Sort of like an old John Deere on high idle.
Can you point me to the opening up of muffler? Just in case I am forced to go that direction.
Saw seems to run nicely. Last time I did big cutting with mine, I was cutting up a sweet gum, a little bigger. Near base, bar would not reach fully through. Might be the wood or the chain, but mine is a bit more aggressive in the cut. Had to be a little carefull not to apply to much feed.
Mine came with 76SL chain requiring 4.5mm file. I could not find that file back then so I called Oregon. They sent me files and recommended replacement chain 72V. That is what I've had since.
Oops! Just peered at old data on that 72V and noticed it uses a different file-holder angle than other 72's. I was supposed to be holding handle 10 degrees down.

 

[leecopland]

Thanks!

Lee, If you get tired of scraping it off, try some Hoppes #9 gun powder solvent. Works quite well.

As it happens I do have some of that Hoppes solvent.

Lee
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[nthums1]

Equipment

How do I get my equipment to list on post? I added to garage in profile but not showing here.

 

[nthums1]

Old age, long storage, ethonal, etc will take its toll on fuel lines.

You want to see bad dissolved lines? Check out an old Echo that has been sitting, they turn to black goo, worse that I have ever seen.

Lots of guys will say to use this or that, but I have really only been using the newer style Oregon lines that are rated to 30% ethanol. I have had good luck with them.

Where did you find that 30% specification and do you know what the line actually is? I cruised all over the Oregon site and found listings for lots of line but nothing for detail specs.
I'm hoping that the Tygon LP-1100 is the answer, but limited sizes, and limited availability for some sizes. I don't need a 50' roll.
LP-1100 is made by Saint-Gobain and seems to be a two-layer construction. The inner is likely some special material to meet the low permeation and can stand a number of fluids including 100% ethanol. Not that I'd ever use that unless going to a race track, but hoping for really long longevity. One less thing to worry about.

 

[nthums1]

What makes you think I was able to get out of bed this morning ? LOL

I had some help on these trees so it wasn't too bad and being yard trees I could drive right next to them and that helped.




Just cause you don't see it don't mean there isn't one. LOL I ain't that tough anymore.

I would pay good money to watch one of the soft wood guys who swear by there Fiskers try to show me how fast they could split this hard and stringy White Oak.

That would be a good laugh, or better yet trick them into giving sweet gum a try.