Closed loop friction hitches

[monkeylove]

I usally use a Blake's hitch but would like to add some closed loop hitches to my techniques. I hear the tend better but are also more fickle than the Blake. I am climbing on Vortex 12.7MM for my DDRT line. Any help on knot preference and length since they seem to come in a few lengths. Thanks.#

 

[joezilla11]

Michoacan hitch is similar to the blakes ud prob like it

 

[jefflovstrom]

Gotta love a 'Monkey Fist'.
Jeff :msp_tongue:

 

[Carburetorless]

Gotta love a 'Monkey Fist'.
Jeff :msp_tongue:

opcorn:

 

[CanopyGorilla]

VT hitch tended with a micro pully is very popular for a good reason. I just switched over to a Hitch Hiker though and love it! I feel like I have been using margarine this whole time and just discovered butter.

 

[jefflovstrom]

opcorn:

It was in reference to his user name.
opcorn:
Jeff

 

[monkeylove]

Don't make me fling poo at you Jeff :monkey:

 

[NYTREECLIMBER]

I like the VT in 28 inch also the Knut in the same length , been loving armor prus 8 mm and HRC 8 mm but I would go with 10 mm on vortex being its larger than most climbing line


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[RandomWoodsman]

A vt is great if you are a lighter smaller guy I had problems with it because im 6'6 and 200 pounds and it didnt want to hold the wraps. A distel or a swabish is easy to tie and remember buy will bind periodically and be a royal PITA. I use a coopers hitch and it works great for me tends as well as a vt and quicker to tie a well as less finicky for me

 

[woodchuck357]

I still use a blakes hitch most of the time. I started using it in the late sixtys and it was the only hitch I used for over 20 years. Lately, I have tried most every hitch that I have heard of. I like the vt but the coopers looks interesting, I'll have to give it a try.

 

[beastmaster]

I use a Vt and a three holed pulley. Its great for footlocking. I use the same set up on my lanyard too now. Couldn't be happier.

 

[Hoowasat]

I tried the Blakes and found I prefer the Valdotain Tresse (VT). With the VT, I use a small block-pulley with a 9mm cord on my 1/2" Arbormaster rope. Runs smoother than the Blakes, and my opinion is the VT provides a more secure feeling.

 

[Guran]

I just bought ocean polyester, 8mm as a hitch cord. Use it with a VT. Think it grabs like crazy. Down to two turns and two wraps. But still a bit hard to release the grip. And when it does it´s a bit drastic, not that smooth. Anybody used ocean polyester as a hith cord?

 

[NYTREECLIMBER]

I just bought ocean polyester, 8mm as a hitch cord. Use it with a VT. Think it grabs like crazy. Down to two turns and two wraps. But still a bit hard to release the grip. And when it does it´s a bit drastic, not that smooth. Anybody used ocean polyester as a hith cord?

What rope was it on? I have oceans 8 mm and never has any issues with it having to much grip. I use a four wrap two cross and find it to be one of the faster hitch cords out . Maybe your cord is to long/short or not tying it correctly . The VT when tied right should never be hard to break it is probably one of the easiest If anything.


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[woodchuck357]

I just bought ocean polyester, 8mm as a hitch cord. Use it with a VT. Think it grabs like crazy. Down to two turns and two wraps. But still a bit hard to release the grip. And when it does it´s a bit drastic, not that smooth. Anybody used ocean polyester as a hith cord?[/quote
How much do you weigh? Heavier climbers seem to not like the VT. I would not reduce the number of turns that low. The release should be smooth and consistent. Don't climb on something that isn't. I have been working to get back down to 180, but am still over 200. Random suggested the coopers hitch, I'm planning to give it a try when I get a little time to play.

 

[Guran]

Thanks for the input. I weight about 185 lbs and climb on a HI-Vee from new England. 12 mm. I would say that I tie the VT correctly. (I think..) I've been using other hitch cords earlier and that worked just fine and smooth when breaking the hitch.

 

[sgreanbeans]

A vt is great if you are a lighter smaller guy I had problems with it because im 6'6 and 200 pounds and it didnt want to hold the wraps. A distel or a swabish is easy to tie and remember buy will bind periodically and be a royal PITA. I use a coopers hitch and it works great for me tends as well as a vt and quicker to tie a well as less finicky for me

What is this coopers? I use a swabish and never have had a problem.

 

[joezilla11]

What is this coopers? I use a swabish and never have had a problem.

Looks like a variation of the vt? I was wondering the same thing. I tried searching for it but all I could find is 2 videos of guys using it but nothing that explains how to tie it

 

[woodchuck357]

Yeah, it's like the vt but with the braids NOT around the climbing rope.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/149641_481332171900448_1709713479_n.jpg

 

[bootboy]

I use a VT when climbing DRT and a distel on my flipline/lanyard. Works for me.