Poor advice becoming more common on AS...

[7sleeper]

@MCW
Sure loved your thread back then! Was the first long term heavy use test of the 7900 that I was aware of! Probably convinced a lot of fellas to have a closer look at dolmar! And how you were finally convinced of the 7900 when you finally got the hd filter kit.


What I find a tragedy is what I have already commented a few times is that it doesn't seem possible to make the old forum into a read only version, so that making looking up old info in it's original form possible! Of course a few months might be missing during the link buck intervention but still the info would still be here!

And comments about "that the good boys didn't leave because of new bees questions" are very norrow minded to the acute situation. I am talking about very knowledgeable members leaving over the years! With wealth of information and experience now lost.

And then we these newbee's braging about how much wood they have cut compared to long time members. Who would just need to use the search function to try to find some info about them, but no this becomes a sandbox braging contest who's phalus is the nicest.....

I wouldn't be surprised if MCW and others start leaving also...

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[MarkEagleUSA]

You may think I am dead against newbie questions which is not the case at all.

Not what I think at all... just trying to make a point that sometimes not replying is the best course of action.

Incorrect newbie answers to newbie questions however is a different kettle of fish.

I totally agree that incorrect answers are not good at all. I said earlier in the thread that it's too easy for something to break or for someone to get hurt if the wrong information is used.

 

[mtfallsmikey]

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:

 

[HuskStihl]

OK. What about the all new T540xp that won't run, and has zero dealer support? Do the huky lovers just skip over that one? Where's moody and mweba with their sweet carb mod suggestions to fix the guys saw with a keyboard. My favorite part of this forum is the extreme brand bias, and bickering back and forth. I used to think the sledder forums were great, but this place is the tops! Very entertaining!

That used to be much more fun, but has died out recently. I'm hoping that the 661 and 572/590 will get the bickering back

 

[XSKIER]

That used to be much more fun, but has died out recently. I'm hoping that the 661 and 572/590 will get the bickering back

Oh yeah! I'll keep coming back time and time again for the newest banter.

 

[sachsmo]

Well, all this talk about advice on AS... here is a 'hot saw long bar mod' on one of my ported 026s I had. A 32 inch 3/8 std. bar on it, set up for Aussie cutting. It works great, man. No such thing as too long a bar here in the wild west. Just use thinner 10wt oil and stop cutting when the bar gets too hot. It has skip chain so it compensates for the loss in torque. Cuts like a dream, even in 4 ft DBH white oak.

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Before anyone gets too excited, it was staged for the photo and I never actually ran this setup...

Actually,

he's right!

A good sharp 'proper' chain is heads and tails above the powerplant.

I learned that after millin' a 'few' slabs.


I remember an old shaky vid of a guy with a 475 poulan just tearin' 'em up!

That thing was slingin' 25 foot rooster tails.

 

[nk14zp]

If I post bad advice it's done jokingly and so absurd you can tell it's a joke AND it wouldn't hurt or harm anything or anyone. IE What bar oil to use? Baby oil.

 

[shootingarts]

The forums age and mature and inevitably change. Individual posters age and mature in their forum life too and unless they are attention whores get tired of posting the same things over and over.

When our information and viewpoint are fresh we are inclined to post. After we have said the same thing over and over most of us get tired of repeating ourselves and let other people field the questions. Before too long the only posts we are replying to are BS'ing with our buddies or the silly threads. On forums about subjects I do have a little expertise in I post an indepth answer to a question once in a blue moon. I have already typed the same thing almost word for word seemingly dozens of times over the years and I'm as tired of saying it as the regulars are of reading it.

Newcomers should use the search function. Problem is that searching is often about as useful as teats on a boar hog. Try a search using "chainsaw" and "oil" as your key words! Often control characters don't work in search windows anymore so short key number and letter combinations are ignored too. After an hour or more searching the newcomer has had enough fun and posts the all too familiar "what oil do I put in my chainsaw and how do I mix it" thread.

Hu

 

[7sleeper]

...After an hour or more searching the newcomer has had enough fun and posts the all too familiar "what oil do I put in my chainsaw and how do I mix it" thread.

Hu

Wouldn't that be a reason to establish a beginners technical fixie, where questions like the above are addressed so that some of the standard questions would be eliminated.

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edit: but of course I believe that that is unwelcome, because income of this site is certainly calculated by the amount of traffic and new posts...

 

[Mastermind]

That has been done......I think it's in the sticky section no one ever uses.

 

[shootingarts]

Wouldn't that be a reason to establish a beginners technical fixie, where questions like the above are addressed so that some of the standard questions would be eliminated.

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edit: but of course I believe that that is unwelcome, because income of this site is certainly calculated by the amount of traffic and new posts...

A forum type layout or tech support section would be fine but a thread with hundreds or thousands of posts and links to other threads with dozens of posts is as useless as the search function. I hate single threads that are supposed to take the place of forums or whole "how to" sections. I dutifully read for hours before posting beginner questions but it is like trying to look up a word in a hard copy dictionary when you have no clue what the word is, only the definition. The best thing that could happen to those threads with no organization or structure is the delete key.

Hu

 

[Mastermind]

Don't mention tech support.......you post will start being deleted....

 

[watsonr]

Don't mention tech support.......you post will start being deleted....

what?

 

[HuskStihl]

It is much easier to search very specific things than general things. Since most newbie questions are general, I try to help, and that's when the bad advice starts. I noticed a big uptick in weird, quasi-intelligible posts starting about August, 2012.

Randy, can I get the PTO seal off the goofy hybrid seal/bearing thing on an early 385 and replace just the seal, or does this require splitting the case?

 

[Nuzzy]

Finding valuable, pertinent info in forums is an art form! Luckily I've gotten pretty goody at it over the years, but certainly not the easiest thing for a newbie to dissect. Some forums are better than others, but all have the same issues to a degree; just goes with the territory. I will say, the best forum I've personally ever come across for value of info in easy to find and read format was a Volkswagen TDI forum called tdiclub. The stickies (not overbearing or too many) were thinned of all extraneous comments and then stuffed full of hyperlinks to various threads considered the best at addressing the topic at hand. I could find a masterful thread on literally any topic my car had within two minutes; that place was a true diamond in the rough!

 

[GrassGuerilla]

Unless you try to multi quote across multiple pages. That doesn't seem to work for me.

In order to multi quote across multi pages, use the floppy disk looking icon. So start with the reply button on the bottom (or any post on that page) then go back to the other pages you want to quote and use the floppy disk looking icon. I'm sure somebody else could describe it better, but hope this helps.

Absolutely agree about the number of ignorant responses from new members. Even some not so new. Hell, I'm probably on your list too (no offense meant or taken).

It's worth noting (at least to me) that this site hit on a successful blend of light moderation and enthusiastic knowledgable members that no other saw or OPE site has matched. I'd like to see it get back on track, as would most others no doubt. Not sure that's in the cards. Things change, most likely we are dealing with a new dynamic here.

 

[Mastermind]

It is much easier to search very specific things than general things. Since most newbie questions are general, I try to help, and that's when the bad advice starts. I noticed a big uptick in weird, quasi-intelligible posts starting about August, 2012.

Randy, can I get the PTO seal off the goofy hybrid seal/bearing thing on an early 385 and replace just the seal, or does this require splitting the case?

You can just replace that seal. It's not cheap....

 

[Eccentric]

You can just replace that seal. It's not cheap....

Can he replace that PTO side seal without splitting the case? I haven't done seals on those saws yet....

 

[Typhke]

I agree on the comments about the sticky, they were very hard to get info out. Now with most of the pictures gone, they are pretty much hopeless. Next to that, reading threads about rebuilds and porting saws is a great way to learn, even more when they use a lot of pictures. There is still a lot of info to be found here and some questions could be easily answered by searching. That in combination with good stickies would help but some people are and will always be too lazy do search for the answer when they can just ask.

New members are key for keeping a forum alive but some members seem to be 'all-knowing' and write in a pretty arrogant way imo. But it is a forum and discussion should take place but it should happen in a respectful way. When I started reading on this forum, I wouldn't think about going in against a senior poster here. I would start searching for info to prove my point and ask for help when I wouldn't get his point, in a humble way ofc. But courtesy is getting lost on the internet and the direct way of talking is destroying the nice environment.
The poor advice in a thread should normally be corrected by a experienced member pretty quickly. But since the troubles with the forum, many of the nice and experienced guys left or aren't really active anymore, and that s*cks! If there were more experienced members reacting all the time, less newbs would post so quickly without thinking or learn more from their mistakes.

 

[GrassGuerilla]

A new dynamic?

Yes sir. I don't think it's going to go back to the way it was. A new dynamic.