naturelover
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Husqvarna vs Stihl
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Philip Wheelock
Finis Origine Pendet
Pro's locally seem quite happy with their non-AT Husky's. Problem is you can't buy a 346 new around here and it's rare to see a used one on CL.
like your comment
ones on e-bay as we type
sunfish
Fish Head
I found a small dealer an hour east of here that has a 346xp on the self. If I didn't already have two, I'd own it!!!
That said, my next one with likely be another AT saw.
naturelover
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Lol..
I was replying to the Swedish vs German girls thing with a pic of heidi klum, but I couldn't get it to work.
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Don,
I hear you, and I'm not ignoring. My only point was that timing is included in M-Tronic, but not in Auto Tune. Quite likely it is based on RPMS and nothing else, but as long as it works right I don't really care. Also, as I have previously stated, the previous controls over ignition timing may have been sophisticated enough that it is not necessary to include them in the new products (it may my redundant).
I also hear the frustration that Stihl may be using technology licensed through Husky more effectively than Husky. I am not saying that is the case, because I don't know, but it is a possibility.
It is clear that when the new systems from Husky and Stihl work properly, people love them, so the only remaining question becomes reliability and we are all using judgement because we don't have the actual "factual" numbers.
On a separate note my 1993 044 has a ZAMA carb. I recently found that out when I rebuilt it. While the Stihl dealer was able to get the rebuild kit for me, they indicated they were not Stihl parts (for whatever that is worth). I believe they used 2 or 3 different brands of carbs on that saw. I was pleasantly surprised that when I took it apart it still looked like new on a 20 year old saw.
MustangMike
Mike, MTronic does nothing with ignition timing than what Husky does.
sunfish
Fish Head
Mike, it looks to me that Stihl is including the timing of the coil as part of the M-Tronic in words only. Where Husky is not. I could be wrong & it doesn't really matter anyway.
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
So tell me,
How do you like your 562 and have you had any problems with it (also, if I may ask, when did you purchase it?). My nephew (MechanicMatt) tested one at an event and absolutely loved it, and in my opinion that grey accent makes them look really sharp.
love a good sense of humor " a merry heart doeth good like a medicine"
sunfish
Fish Head
M-Tronic controls the carb, the coil does it's own thing, same as Auto-Tune. That's the way I understand it.
Since you asked... I've had the 562xp for two years and absolutely love it. It is a stock Hot Rod! You understand the need for speed right? Smooth as glass and handles better than it should! Not the first problem, easiest saw I've ever owned to start, hot cold, or warm. Most impressive stock saw I've ever run.
Mine is a very early one and based on internet chat it should be bad, But like I said earlier, the percentage of bad AT saws is extremely small. When there is a problem it usually gets blown out of proportion here.
sunfish
Fish Head
I sold a ported 75cc 365 after running the 562xp for awhile and I rarely run the ported 357xp anymore.
That should tell ya something.
That should tell ya something.
Your feedback is pretty much what my Nephew told me, I'm happy for you, sounds like the perfect all around saw (size, weight, power). If I could only guarantee I would get a good one ... maybe if I find a dealer who with absolutely stand behind it.I sold a ported 75cc 365 after running the 562xp for awhile and I rarely run the ported 357xp anymore.
That should tell ya something.
The reason I asked when you got it, I don't think the early saws had problems. I think Husky tried to tweak something and "mis tweaked" it. The comments from MasterMind seem to support this, and I know he deals with far more saws than I do (he seems to be running into problems recently).
Enjoy that saw, sounds like the groundbreaking equivalent of what my 044 was 20 years ago. The 562 is about 2 lbs lighter and has similar performance, I could really get to like that!
Best of Luck and thanks for the information.
MustangMike
sunfish
Fish Head
Thanks Mike!
As for a dealer, I got my 562 from spike60 (Bob) & you are a hell of a lot closer to him than I am!
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I'm not sure whether you are referring to a 365/357/044 as being two pounds heavier than a 562, but none are. The 357 is likely withing a couple of ounces, the 044 is about a pound heavier, and the 365 is a few ounces more than the the 044.
Don, clean up that 562 really well and put it on some good scales. A 357 weighs right at 13lbs dry.
sunfish
Fish Head
He's saying the 562 is 2 lbs lighter than a 044.
I don't have a good set of scales. Need to get some.
Derrick Sawyer
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Though i am relatively new to the chainsaw world, from what I do know, Brad and others are correct that the change in timing from starting/idle to full throttle is in the ignition. For instance, the Stihl 461 has more advanced timing at full RPM than idle, and that saw is not M-tronic...just trust the pro's here. there is actually a post somewhere showing the advance with a strobe timing light but you need the flywheel cover off so quite dangerous.
