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Helper springs or add-a-leaf's are an e3asy upgrade to rear suspension to increase payload capacity in a big way. Helper springs will not affect ride quality, while add-a-leaf's will make the rear suspension noticeable stiffer.

That can't be the only thing needed right? What about handling and braking power?

Well when you are poor like me you can control what you buy because i have got no money :cry:
lol. "That man is richest whose pleasures are the cheapest."
 
Well when you are poor like me you can control what you buy because i have got no money :cry:
I cut for decades with small saws, but big trees were really hard to do. Did it but..it sucked. When we got nailed with the tornado, had no choice, borrowed the money and went larger. Took me awhile to pay it off, but I did it. Now, you can take a small saw, pick and choose your trees wisely, cut split and sell two cords, take that money and get a used larger saw. I wish I had done that before the tornado, not staring at 6000 lbs of oak on the roof and in the living room.
 
That can't be the only thing needed right? What about handling and braking power?

lol. "That man is richest whose pleasures are the cheapest."


I added some inexpensive coil helper springs to the rear in my old chevy van, helped a bunch. Brakes, pads are cheap, flushing with new brake fluid is cheap.
 
I cut for decades with small saws, but big trees were really hard to do. Did it but..it sucked. When we got nailed with the tornado, had no choice, borrowed the money and went larger. Took me awhile to pay it off, but I did it. Now, you can take a small saw, pick and choose your trees wisely, cut split and sell two cords, take that money and get a used larger saw. I wish I had done that before the tornado, not staring at 6000 lbs of oak on the roof and in the living room.

Don't listen to this guy. He's the one usually holding a pitch fork sitting on your shoulder.

I added some inexpensive coil helper springs to the rear in my old chevy van, helped a bunch. Brakes, pads are cheap, flushing with new brake fluid is cheap.

I may look into some type of payload increase improvements.
 
Don't listen to this guy. He's the one usually holding a pitch fork sitting on your shoulder.



I may look into some type of payload increase improvements.

hahahah! OK, I admit I got CAD after joining here. hahaha! But the necessity of getting a larger saw at the time was obvious, and glad I did. I think if you are going to be cutting all the time forever for firewood, and taking whole trees and scrounging, which means you will be seeing from one inch to three foot or larger diameter, you need at least a three saw plan, small medium and large, large being 70 cc or larger. If you live someplace where you know real large trees are non existent, fine, a coupla smallish saws. Now people in areas with larger trees can and do get by with smaller saws, but you never know when an emergency can happen where a big saw is the ticket. You just never know, big trees come down all the time, usually when you aren't expecting it, but have to deal with it.
 
That can't be the only thing needed right? What about handling and braking power?"

Well you (presumably) aren't driving with it fully loaded 24/7, so (personally) I would not worry about handling. Any vehicle will handle differently when loaded, however if your suspension is too soft and living way too far into it's travel, the vehicle will handle terribly. IF you have stiffer springs, when loaded the vehicle will handle like it should as the suspension wont be excessively compressed. When unloaded is when the helper spring vs add a leaf comes into play- helper springs are only "utilized" when the stock springs are loaded to capacity. Adding an extra leaf will stiffen then entire spring pack, so sure- when unloaded, the rear end will be a bit stiffer, and will sit up a bit higher (less static sag).

Regarding your brakes...as long as you drive safely, you shouldn't have a problem. Don't overheat them going down hills, leave plenty of room and brake wisely and you will be just fine. Try to drive like Mario Andretti when you have a cord of wood in the truck, and you'll have a bad time for sure.
 
hahahah! OK, I admit I got CAD after joining here. hahaha! But the necessity of getting a larger saw at the time was obvious, and glad I did. I think if you are going to be cutting all the time forever for firewood, and taking whole trees and scrounging, which means you will be seeing from one inch to three foot or larger diameter, you need at least a three saw plan, small medium and large, large being 70 cc or larger. If you live someplace where you know real large trees are non existent, fine, a coupla smallish saws. Now people in areas with larger trees can and do get by with smaller saws, but you never know when an emergency can happen where a big saw is the ticket. You just never know, big trees come down all the time, usually when you aren't expecting it, but have to deal with it.

I completely agree.

No scrounger should be with out a big boy.

The members that talk about giant oak rounds along the side of the road that no one will touch because they are too big.

Heck, I would be completey content with a 550xp and the 394
 
After seeing deer in windy conditions with 50 mph gusts in archery, I may not stay home the next windy day as long as I can mostly get out of the wind.
read a study on radio collared deer years ago. michigan i think. deer were most active at 30 mph +. i'm always out when it's windy.
 
My mechanic at the shop whacked 2 of his biggest deer in bad weather , 1 buck during a torrential rain storm and the last big one in a wind storm as he was going trapping for beaver with a knapsack full of trapping gear and a 3030 in hand .
Both times he said that the deer just looked at him like they didn't believe what they were looking at LOL
 
read a study on radio collared deer years ago. michigan i think. deer were most active at 30 mph +. i'm always out when it's windy.


Actually, the biggest buck I got was on a 35 degree day, wind was blowing with gusts up to 40 mph and it was a mixture of sleet rain, horrible conditions. 225 BC atypical (wasn't official just my calculations) and 241# after dressed.
 

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