Longer bar or bigger saw

[U&A]

So i have a 562XP with a 20” bar. Im wanting an option to run a 28” bar on something.

I am not sure the 562 would be comfortable running a 28 inch bar. Even if it is just a “backup “ bar or not used as often I don’t want to do it if it truly is not meant to be on there.

So is the 562XP comfortable with a 28” or should I consider a different saw?

I am not opposed to buy another one (the 562 is my only one) but don’t want to if its not necessary either.

I truly do like the Auto Tune saws as well. If there ever is an issue with autotune ( has not been once in 3 years yet) it’s not as big of a deal from me as i do not need my saw “every day” like a true arborist.

Will a ported 562XP Run a 28” all day? I don’t want to overwork the saw or clutch.

Thanks for the advice.





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[Gugi47]

The 28 is the max what you can have....maybe not ok for use all day. I would.

 

[merc_man]

I think it.would be fine. I would maybe use a skip chain.

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[Skeans]

I run a 32 on mine falling timber with semi skip chain.


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[Deleted member 150358]

Like you I don't rely on my saws to earn my keep. Its more a way of life I enjoy.

I run a 32" on a plain ole 038 AV. That's a lot of bar for that saw 61cc 4hp. But it oils very well and have cut Oak, Maple and cottonwood up to 54" or so. Inspite of the hp to weight shade thrown at the 038 I enjoy the heck out of this one.

That and 1 saw just ain't right. You deserve a 390xp to keep the 562 in line.

I like having it a dedicated saw as I typically make half a dozen cuts or so with it on 1-2 trees a year. Sure a 460 or 390 would do it with more gusto but for me it works. Clean and sharpen the chain it goes back in the shed ready to roll.

 

[U&A]

Ok,

28” bar with a semi skip chisel it is.

I appreciate the input fellas. Thanks a bunch.


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[Andyshine77]

It all really depends on the wood and what your expectations are. I know in certain types of wood I cut, the oiler on my 562 would have a hard time keeping things moving with a bar longer than 24". In the north west you can get away longer bars for sure. The 562 is just not designed to run a 28" bar all day IMHO.

 

[cus_deluxe]

Sounds like you all are discouraging this fellow from getting another saw. Wtf?

 

[old guy]

Sounds like you all are discouraging this fellow from getting another saw. Wtf?

That just ain't rite!

 

[cus_deluxe]

Seriously, somebody oughta start bannin’ m’fers for that kind of talk lol.

 

[Deleted member 117362]

I run a 32 on mine falling timber with semi skip chain.


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Does oiler keep up with that bar?

 

[dmb2613]

MS660 or the huskie equivalent will serve you well

 

[Ryan'smilling]

MS660 or the huskie equivalent will serve you well

Husky makes a heavy, slow saw with a terrible air filter that makes you feel like you're running a jack hammer?

 

[Skeans]

Does oiler keep up with that bar?

Yes it does, the first day of break in was in 5’ wood. It’s not like running my 390 or 395 in the same wood but my back doesn’t hurt at the end of the day is worth it.


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[Deleted member 117362]

Yes it does, the first day of break in was in 5’ wood. It’s not like running my 390 or 395 in the same wood but my back doesn’t hurt at the end of the day is worth it.


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Agree with you 100% and my 390 loves it's fuel. Thanks for your reply, will try a longer bar on mine.

 

[U&A]

Just got it priced at my dealer. Basically it will be about $125 for a 28” husky bar and husky chain. I dont know if he priced a semi-skip chain because i asked for a stihl semi-skip and he came back saying they didn’t have one but had a husky

Seem reasonable?


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[Skeans]

Just got it priced at my dealer. Basically it will be about $125 for a 28” husky bar and husky chain. I dont know if he priced a semi-skip chain because i asked for a stihl semi-skip and he came back saying they didn’t have one but had a husky

Seem reasonable?


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Semi skip is a square ground chain combo every time I’ve been around it, the price of the bar and chain seems high to me.


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[cgraham1]

Yeah that’s too much money, unless you are pricing a reduced weight bar... which I would recommend (at that length) on a 60cc saw.

It will pull it, but I really preferred a 20” on the ported 562 I had. it just felt right to me.

 

[cgraham1]

Cutter Tooth Sequences Explained

Standard sequence or what we usually call full-compliment, has the most cutting teeth of the three sequences. Its many teeth make it the smoothest and fastest cutting on jobs that require short cuts. Professional saw users usually run it on saws with short to medium length bars or on jobs where extensive limbing is required.

Semi-Skip is a compromise between standard and full skip sequence. Half of its teeth are close together like standard and half are like full skip. Users who run it claim it is the most versatile configuration. Our sales indicate it is the least popular of the three sequences.

Full-Skip is our best selling sequence. It is usually preferred by customers who run long bars and cut large softwood trees. Long cuts, common in these conditions, require the chain to carry chips a long distance before they are expelled. Since chips ride in the spaces under and between the cutter teeth, users have found that by reducing the number of teeth, a chain's chip clearing ability improves. On long and deep cuts, this enhances its performance. A side benefit is that it takes less time to sharpen than the other sequences. Its bad traits include that it is prone to vibration, its lack of cutter teeth make it grabby in short cuts, and its kickback potential is high.

Stay-Sharp Ability
When selecting a sequence for saw chain, another consideration is a chain's stay-sharp ability. A number of experienced pro chain saw users say, full-comp chain tends to stay sharp longer than the skip-tooth configurations.

Our Advice
Bars 24" & Under
When running a bar length of 24" or less, full compliment is the best choice. It will always be the fastest and smoothest cutting sequence on short cutting attachments. Even those who are tempted to select a skip tooth configuration to reduce sharpening time, will find full compliment doesn't take much longer to sharpen. On short bar applications, there are are not that many more teeth.

Bars 28" - 32"
When running bar lengths of 28" to 32", the best sequence is less certain. In this range of bar lengths, the size of the cuts being made with the saw should to be taken into consideration when selecting the sequence. For example, sometimes longer bars are used to minimize bending on a job that requires a lot of limbing. In this case, the cuts are more similar to what would be done with short bars, so a full compliment chain is the best choice. On the other hand, if most cuts on the job require burying the bar in a deep cut, a skip sequence would probably be the best choice.

Bars 34" & Longer
When running bar lengths of 36" or longer, a skip sequence is usually the best choice. These bars are rarely run to eliminate bending over, and most often are used on jobs that require deep cuts. Even with these conditions, we do occasionally see full-compliment chain being run when the job also requires a fair amount of limbing. In the end, the best sequence for you requires some compromise and consideration of many factors.

 

[U&A]

Cutter Tooth Sequences Explained

Standard sequence or what we usually call full-compliment, has the most cutting teeth of the three sequences. Its many teeth make it the smoothest and fastest cutting on jobs that require short cuts. Professional saw users usually run it on saws with short to medium length bars or on jobs where extensive limbing is required.

Semi-Skip is a compromise between standard and full skip sequence. Half of its teeth are close together like standard and half are like full skip. Users who run it claim it is the most versatile configuration. Our sales indicate it is the least popular of the three sequences.

Full-Skip is our best selling sequence. It is usually preferred by customers who run long bars and cut large softwood trees. Long cuts, common in these conditions, require the chain to carry chips a long distance before they are expelled. Since chips ride in the spaces under and between the cutter teeth, users have found that by reducing the number of teeth, a chain's chip clearing ability improves. On long and deep cuts, this enhances its performance. A side benefit is that it takes less time to sharpen than the other sequences. Its bad traits include that it is prone to vibration, its lack of cutter teeth make it grabby in short cuts, and its kickback potential is high.

Stay-Sharp Ability
When selecting a sequence for saw chain, another consideration is a chain's stay-sharp ability. A number of experienced pro chain saw users say, full-comp chain tends to stay sharp longer than the skip-tooth configurations.

Our Advice
Bars 24" & Under
When running a bar length of 24" or less, full compliment is the best choice. It will always be the fastest and smoothest cutting sequence on short cutting attachments. Even those who are tempted to select a skip tooth configuration to reduce sharpening time, will find full compliment doesn't take much longer to sharpen. On short bar applications, there are are not that many more teeth.

Bars 28" - 32"
When running bar lengths of 28" to 32", the best sequence is less certain. In this range of bar lengths, the size of the cuts being made with the saw should to be taken into consideration when selecting the sequence. For example, sometimes longer bars are used to minimize bending on a job that requires a lot of limbing. In this case, the cuts are more similar to what would be done with short bars, so a full compliment chain is the best choice. On the other hand, if most cuts on the job require burying the bar in a deep cut, a skip sequence would probably be the best choice.

Bars 34" & Longer
When running bar lengths of 36" or longer, a skip sequence is usually the best choice. These bars are rarely run to eliminate bending over, and most often are used on jobs that require deep cuts. Even with these conditions, we do occasionally see full-compliment chain being run when the job also requires a fair amount of limbing. In the end, the best sequence for you requires some compromise and consideration of many factors.

What an excellent post.

Thanks

And now that i have slept on this decision i think i want to get a bigger saw. That means i will have to wait for a while to save up for it.

I assume a 390 Will run a 28” all day or possibly even a 32”. I dont cut much soft wood. Mostly harder woods. Oak, black locust, cherry, hickory, and then a little maple & beach.


Here is my only gripe. I have really liked autotune and wish the 390 had it as an option.


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