Ekka
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bugaboos, I like that.
Did you know that 50% of houses in Melbourne alone are structural cracked.
Big bugaboos.
Did you know that 50% of houses in Melbourne alone are structural cracked.
Big bugaboos.
Did you know that 50% of houses in Melbourne alone are structural cracked.
Big bugaboos.
So waddya gonna do, clearcut Melbourne? Simplistic solution; the horse is in the next pasture and the barn door swings closed.
How many of those cracks are caused by trees? Few. How many will be healed by cutting the tree? None.
And where did that stat come from, let me guess, some (re)building trades organization--and hey you know you can't trust organizations, right? :monkey:
Yeah bugaboo is a fun word; comes from celtic for 'devil', an object of fear.
jp, you may find that they talk the talk quite loudly in their ordinances and pr, but crawl the walk when it comes to enforcement.just applied for a different job at a local municipality around my neck of the woods to be their CA for the city,,,one of the many requirements are Certification,,,going over their tree preservation laws,,,i only wish more cities were like this one,,,they are very protective of their trees within city limits
ill never stop learning in arboriculture,,,hopefully i get the city Arborist position and actually see if they do enforce those tree preservation ordinances!!!Good luck on your job prospects, never stop learning.
The only time the ISA or even our local chapter has any concern at all for public education is when it is paid for by its local members. Case in point...
I recently ran a booth at two buisness expos, and home and garden shows. I called the ISA, (of which I am a recent member) and the MSA, (which I recently joined) asking them to send literature, or possibly even represent them somehow. I recently became certified and joined these organizations because I believe in trying to better this industry, (which I have participated in for 30 years, and have enjoyed the benefits of).
I was given over to sales which offered to sell me brochures, and posters, and coloring books. So I found out the ISA will definitely put their money where their mouth is...AS LONG AS IT COMES FROM MY POCKET
I recently became a certified arborist (left uncapitalized by intention)
Did it make me a better tree trimmer.....no.
Did it make me more knowledgable.....only in aspects of tree care I will never use
Did it bring me more business....Actually I think the clientelle here see the ca behind my name and imediately think I am too high priced...I get less calls instead of more.
Did it "inspire" me to do more spikeless climbing...not really I have been leaning towards that area for years, and have found many ways to ascend a tree without spikes in trimming situations
Do I suddenly think spikes are the greatest evil in the world...definitely not
Do I see any benefits from my ca or my membership to ISA, or MSA (the local chapter) yes...I got invited to a picnic...(after of course I spend 400.00 on a seminar), and I got invited to Hawaii, ..(During my busiest season, and of course after I pay my own way there and back and hotel rooms).
and I get a magazine every month...which tells me how great the IsA is and the wonderful things they are doing....along with several good articles,
For me personally so far (I repeat...SO FAR) the ISA cert. has been a total waste of my time, and funds, and the memberships have been a joke.
Only you can do that, they provide educational materialI recently became a certified arborist (left uncapitalized by intention)
Did it make me a better tree trimmer.....no.
Nothing(one) will wave a wand over your head and fill you up with knowledge. It is a never ending journey.Did it make me more knowledgable.....only in aspects of tree care I will never use
I don't think anyone else here does either, most have followed your path over timeDid it "inspire" me to do more spikeless climbing...not really I have been leaning towards that area for years, and have found many ways to ascend a tree without spikes in trimming situations
Do I suddenly think spikes are the greatest evil in the world...definitely not
Same as any other professional organization, dues cannot cover the cost of the shows. I look at it as if I can get one little nugget that I can use on a regular basis, one piece of knowledge that I can pass on to clientel, then it is worth my money and time.Do I see any benefits from my ca or my membership to ISA, or MSA (the local chapter) yes...I got invited to a picnic...(after of course I spend 400.00 on a seminar), and I got invited to Hawaii, ..(During my busiest season, and of course after I pay my own way there and back and hotel rooms).
That's worth a lot right thereand I get a magazine every month.......along with several good articles,
I've not gone ISA/CA because I can show a greater then minimum knowledge to my clientel, as a subcontractor, in a few minutes of conversation. I've been a Life Memeber for near 10 years, I think it has been well worth my while.For me personally so far (I repeat...SO FAR) the ISA cert. has been a total waste of my time, and funds, and the memberships have been a joke.
It falls on all of us to promote better tree care, and isa mtl is just one bag of tools for that.So where is the ideal of public education?? From what I have seen (AGAIN A VERY LIMITED PERSPECTIVE) the "public" they are trying to educate consists of already members, or tree trimmers that are already trying to educate themselves. Their spiel seems to be delivered and redundantly reiterrated in the Arborist news, or their own educational material...but no where else. When given the opportunity to stand behind their mission...it falls on me to advertise them
How about some coherence, clearance? :help: :notrolls2:
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