Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[LondonNeil]

If you wait until the primer bulb splits to change it, you've waited way too long.
They are not only nice to help start a dry saw(not that I leave mine dry), but they are also a great fuel system condition indicator. If they stop looking mostly clear, it's time to change out not only the bulb, but also the fuel lines and filter and a carb kit isn't a bad idea.

I use real chainsaws, my 550s, 346, 353, ms201 and many others I've had have primer bulbs.
What I think is interesting is how some saws without them will crank almost instantly , then others will take many pulls. Dolmar makes some of the easiest starting saws.
Interesting fact, most saws that are low on compression will need to be pulled over more to get them to start, since the impulse to the diaphragm/ carb is weaker.
Have a great day guys. Blue skies here today .

Thanks for the tip, I was about to ask Philbert how often might I expect to change it.
Currently, as new, it's clear and uncoloured. I've seen photos of saws with them and they seem to yellow and darken. Is that when you'd change them or do they actually go cloudy?

 

[svk]

Thanks for the tip, I was about to ask Philbert how often might I expect to change it.
Currently, as new, it's clear and uncoloured. I've seen photos of saws with them and they seem to yellow and darken. Is that when you'd change them or do they actually go cloudy?

Color not as important as pliability. Once it stops returning to form as quickly you should replace it.

 

[H-Ranch]

Took the day off today so was able to get a few loads put up.

 

[rarefish383]

Little Debbie oatmeal cream pie cookies work great for bait . Raccoons, possums, skunks, cats, and small dogs have been caught using this for bait.

I started to add Little Debbie's to my list of Marshmallows and KFC, but I like them too. Last time I got my head caught in a havaheart, I thought I was going to rip my ears off getting out.

 

[Cowboy254]

Yeah, careful setting those traps fellas, you might catch Joe.

 

[rarefish383]

Since I often go weeks or months between running a saw I always run it empty and empty the carb. This means the first start takes a load of pulls to get fuel to the carb. I now love the Makita for it's primer bulb and wish Stihl and husqvarna used them. I'm sure if/when the primer bulb degrades and splits/ holes I'll curse the ****Ing thing and ask why it's there...'Stihl and husqvarna don't need them!'
Other than that... And my sticky decomp, I rarely have trouble....damn....I shouldn't have said that should I.!?

I have a Pioneer 700D, made from 1962-64. I think it's 106CC's. When I got it, a few little parts were missing. One was a button on top of the saw. I thought it was the oiler button, but, I found the oiler button was down close to the trigger. Chris, CBFarmall, sent me some oiler parts. When I asked what the other pump was, he said it's a primer pump. So, way back in the early 60's, Pioneer was thinking about you Neil. Now all you need to do is find a 700D

 

[rarefish383]

For some reason the purge bulbs offend guys who use ‘real’ chainsaws, and they are mostly on ‘homeowner’ and some midrange models. If they make the saw easier to start, but have to be replaced every few years, that seems like a good deal to me.

That said, none of my battery or corded electric saws have them.

Philbert

I used to be one of those guys that thought primers were only for sissy's, till I found how good they work.

I read a story about the guy that invented the primer bulb for small engines. He had a small engine shop and found a lot of older equipment would start better if primed. He made a primer bulb that went into the gas cap. When big manufacturing saw what he had made, they either tried to buy the patent from him? Or, just skipped him and put it in line as we know it now. So, the guy that saw the problem and fixed it, wound up with zip for his effort. Think I'll do a search and see what I find. The story I read was long before computers, it may have changed by now?

 

[Philbert]

What I have learned here, is the difference between a ‘primer’ bulb (pumps fuel in the carb, and can flood the engine), and a ‘purge’ bulb (pulls fuel through the carb, replacing air).

Did I get that right? Purge bulbs are the way to go?

Thanks.


Philbert

 

[svk]

Well primers actually are the best for easy starts but they aren’t idiot resistant so a person can easily flood the engine.

 

[Cowboy254]

Pfft. Some of us are so skilled that we can even flood the engine without a primer bulb.

 

[djg james]

I picked up the last 15 rounds of the other day's scrounge with Cowlad (when you have to roll each one end over end down the hill you are very interested in how many you have to go). Yes, I did post this pic the other day but I'm hoping it will be allowed on the basis that it gives context to the rest of the post.

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Split them just above the track then chucked them down and loaded up.

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Little bit of clean up and I'm done.

That's the most solid wood I've ever seen you post . The other stuff I can't believe you get firewood out of it.

 

[Cowboy254]

Well fellas, a sad day for us. Cowgirl's dad died overnight. He had a brainstem tumour which only made its presence known in the last three weeks. He had been in generally poor health for 10 years so in one respect the extra time he had was a bonus and the thing that got him in the end was unexpected and unrelated to his past history. She did get to go up to Queensland for a week to say goodbye, he was cognitively ok and he wasn't in any pain. So as these things go, it probably went as well as could be hoped but it still sucks.

 

[svk]

Well fellas, a sad day for us. Cowgirl's dad died overnight. He had a brainstem tumour which only made its presence known in the last three weeks. He had been in generally poor health for 10 years so in one respect the extra time he had was a bonus and the thing that got him in the end was unexpected and unrelated to his past history. She did get to go up to Queensland for a week to say goodbye, he was cognitively ok and he wasn't in any pain. So as these things go, it probably went as well as could be hoped but it still sucks.

Very sorry to hear

 

[svk]

My father's elderly neighbors passed away a couple years back. Their adult kids more or less left the house (which I believe is valued in the 3-400k range) go into decay....The raccoons ripped out one of the eave vents and more or less moved the whole colony in. My dad told the kids a few times about the raccoons and they did not seem to care. Finally did something when the city approached them due to blight issues.

I cannot imagine that attic after having multiple raccoons up there for months on end.

I asked him how this was going. He said ten have been removed so far and they’re still in there.

I cannot imagine how that ceiling must look.

 

[dancan]

Well fellas, a sad day for us. Cowgirl's dad died overnight. He had a brainstem tumour which only made its presence known in the last three weeks. He had been in generally poor health for 10 years so in one respect the extra time he had was a bonus and the thing that got him in the end was unexpected and unrelated to his past history. She did get to go up to Queensland for a week to say goodbye, he was cognitively ok and he wasn't in any pain. So as these things go, it probably went as well as could be hoped but it still sucks.

I'll tip a glass this evening , my condolences .

 

[chipper1]

Well fellas, a sad day for us. Cowgirl's dad died overnight. He had a brainstem tumour which only made its presence known in the last three weeks. He had been in generally poor health for 10 years so in one respect the extra time he had was a bonus and the thing that got him in the end was unexpected and unrelated to his past history. She did get to go up to Queensland for a week to say goodbye, he was cognitively ok and he wasn't in any pain. So as these things go, it probably went as well as could be hoped but it still sucks.

Sorry for your loss.

 

[chipper1]

I asked him how this was going. He said ten have been removed so far and they’re still in there.

I cannot imagine how that ceiling must look.

Gotta be nasty.
My BIL and I were replacing the old wood soffits on a house with vented aluminum, when we were pulling it down they were full of coon crap .
I don't like to get dirty believe it or not, and that job was fitting to be on the show Dirtiest Jobs, it was disgusting. Glad I didn't come down with something .
Been struggling with vermin in the pole barn lately, lots of Dove and Robin's, thinking they are going to nest in there . Also have some coon tracks, looks like he comes in to get out of the rain and just hangs out on the side opposite the house.
Need to set a trap, but I'm afraid I might catch Joe .

 

[WoodAbuser]

Gotta be nasty.
My BIL and I were replacing the old wood soffits on a house with vented aluminum, when we were pulling it down they were full of coon crap .
I don't like to get dirty believe it or not, and that job was fitting to be on the show Dirtiest Jobs, it was disgusting. Glad I didn't come down with something .
Been struggling with vermin in the pole barn lately, lots of Dove and Robin's, thinking they are going to nest in there . Also have some coon tracks, looks like he comes in to get out of the rain and just hangs out on the side opposite the house.
Need to set a trap, but I'm afraid I might catch Joe .

One of my traps got all beat up late last year. Now I wonder if it was Joe getting loose?

 

[H-Ranch]

Well fellas, a sad day for us. Cowgirl's dad died overnight. He had a brainstem tumour which only made its presence known in the last three weeks. He had been in generally poor health for 10 years so in one respect the extra time he had was a bonus and the thing that got him in the end was unexpected and unrelated to his past history. She did get to go up to Queensland for a week to say goodbye, he was cognitively ok and he wasn't in any pain. So as these things go, it probably went as well as could be hoped but it still sucks.

Sorry to hear the news @Cowboy254. As you say, in some ways a blessing, but sure doesn't make it easy.

 

[MustangMike]

So sorry to hear about the hurt Cowgirl must be going through.

Hope the fond memories of his life reduce the sorrow.