Two-Stroke Oils: All the Same?

[Dennisthemenace]

Gotcha. I got some, but it cost a pretty penny!! $44 AUD per L. Only ran a tank of it so far but the smell and smoke is much less than the others I have tested so far.

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Gotcha. I got some, but it cost a pretty penny!! $44 AUD per L. Only ran a tank of it so far but the smell and smoke is much less than the others I have tested so far.

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It's a bit better by the US gallon (3 and a bit litres) but hey, one of the few blokes on here who actually wears big saws out and works them real hard in Australian conditions , Rogue60 (and his legend Dad!) just use that el cheapo Castrol garden 2T mineral @ 25/1 and swear by it. He'll correct me if I'm wrong on those details but I try to no longer overthink the oil thing

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

It's a bit better by the US gallon (3 and a bit litres) but hey, one of the few blokes on here who actually wears big saws out and works them real hard in Australian conditions , Rogue60 (and his legend Dad!) just use that el cheapo Castrol garden 2T mineral @ 25/1 and swear by it. He'll correct me if I'm wrong on those details but I try to no longer overthink the oil thing

Yeah he does, so does trains! Burns so cleanly, but they both work their equipment harddddd.

Funnily enough I forgot to mention, I was on the search for the 2 stroke oil smell that was so reminiscent of my dirtbike days (2008 onwards). It’s Amsoil Saber. So far it’s the only oil I can run at 32:1 that produces hardly any smoke, doesn’t give me a headache and smells absolutely amazing. It’s literally the smell of pure joy LOL

 

[North by Northwest]

Wouldn't even use it for that...

Did someone mention undercoating yet ?

 

[North by Northwest]

Come on guys. Let's here it from the 100 to 1 crowd....

250:1 in hand sprayer , with an ounce of lacquer thinner really works great . Strange after taste though

 

[North by Northwest]

It's a bit better by the US gallon (3 and a bit litres) but hey, one of the few blokes on here who actually wears big saws out and works them real hard in Australian conditions , Rogue60 (and his legend Dad!) just use that el cheapo Castrol garden 2T mineral @ 25/1 and swear by it. He'll correct me if I'm wrong on those details but I try to no longer overthink the oil thing

Nah , he also uses it for cologne , beats the hell out of old spice !

 

[North by Northwest]

More important than which oil you choose, is learning to tune your saw properly. Plenty more saws are killed by a bad tune, than are killed by running the wrong two stroke oil. Lots of videos on YT.

You forgot shiiiity fuel !

 

[North by Northwest]

I dumped mine in the truck. Wasn't going to waste it either!

That's why it was smoking so bad last time I saw it !

 

[North by Northwest]

I don't know. Honda HP2 is made by Phillips as well and I believe Yamalube 2R is made by them now too.
Phillips over the years has made good two cycle oils.

Don't sweat it Sean , some people split hairs just for the sake of argument . Any good FC rated oil is more than sufficient within any air cooled 2T engine as verified in Rogje60's Gardener-2t Stihl 660 testimonals ! Now , perhaps if you have sensitivity to smoke & 2T exhaust byproducts and must run a saw or trimmer or blower . Some quality FD oils may reduce your sensitivity accordingly . I also , believe your correct with the Redmax & Husky xp being a Phillips product . However , I believe RedArmor is from a different supplier brother , you can verify of course .

 

[North by Northwest]

No running them on high test. The smaller scale glow engines run on a nitro/methanol mix. They were one weedwhacker engines back in the day. Now they are purpose built for rc use. These are the 2 1/5 scale models I currently have. The pic with my daughter is the 5ive t. 32cc zen based engine. The other chassis with the solid axles is a kraken vekta .5 34cc zen based engine.

Loved those Zenoah based 2T Strato injected engines . Recall when Zenoah was designing Fuji 3 cylinder engines for Polaris Starfires . Lite yrs a head of the competition , actually welded up a lot of those tuned pipes for out triples back in the day . Polaris sent each dealer layout detailed prints for fabrication .

 

[North by Northwest]

I started full time cut and skid logging in 1979 brand new Husqvarna 162 used what ever oil was on sale mixed quart to five gallon after about 2000 hours the power was down a bit time for a rebuild.
Today if I had a brand new 162 and used the best modern oil at there recommended ratio I would probably get around 2000 hours.
The 2 main reasons saws die early are
Set too lean
Dull chains with lean mix ratios a really bad combination on hot days.

And smoked pto bearing from those dull chains in that hot weather brother !

 

[North by Northwest]

Yeah he does, so does trains! Burns so cleanly, but they both work their equipment harddddd.

Funnily enough I forgot to mention, I was on the search for the 2 stroke oil smell that was so reminiscent of my dirtbike days (2008 onwards). It’s Amsoil Saber. So far it’s the only oil I can run at 32:1 that produces hardly any smoke, doesn’t give me a headache and smells absolutely amazing. It’s literally the smell of pure joy LOL

Yeah , Saber was a big seller within motox & sleds when it 1st came out . 40:1 in both for yrs with great success !

 

[flatsfisher]

Several years , no issues

as a hardcore 2 stroke dirt bike guy I can say that Motul 800 is good stuff. another great oil is Champion WP. my riding bud put 255 hours on his KTM 300XC with it and when I did a top end for him everything was perfect. not a mark. he's been using it for 25 years. I use this and have had fantastic results.

 

[OM617YOTA]

This is my small stash of Mobil Racing 2T, as well as a couple other oils I want to try.

 

[halfmile]

Belray or Spectrol work great in motorcycles..........I worked on bikes for years and they are both good.

HM

 

[lone wolf]

Belray or Spectrol work great in motorcycles..........I worked on bikes for years and they are both good.

HM

I wonder how Belray is in saws? I have a bunch of it laying around MC1 and H1R ?

 

[sean donato]

as a hardcore 2 stroke dirt bike guy I can say that Motul 800 is good stuff. another great oil is Champion WP. my riding bud put 255 hours on his KTM 300XC with it and when I did a top end for him everything was perfect. not a mark. he's been using it for 25 years. I use this and have had fantastic results.
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Can tell you don't live in the states....lol

 

[flatsfisher]

Can tell you don't live in the states....lol

no, I live in the jungle. Florida gulf coast.

 

[lone wolf]

Anyone know where I can get Amsoil 2 stroke in quarts under 16.00 ? It seems to be hard to find or stupidly priced.

 

[SimonHS]

Anyone know where I can get Amsoil 2 stroke in quarts under 16.00 ? It seems to be hard to find or stupidly priced.

You can get it cheaper direct from Amsoil if you become a preferred customer. Probably worth it if you use a lot of oil.

https://www.amsoil.com/offers/pc/

 

[lone wolf]

You can get it cheaper direct from Amsoil if you become a preferred customer. Probably worth it if you use a lot of oil.

https://www.amsoil.com/offers/pc/

Just did it yes it saw a few dollars lees ea.