I would talk to a logger in your area, If thoes trees are as big as you think that should bring you minimum $3000 if they can be sold for venir. They will probally leave the tops if you want for firewood.
My advise.. if the money is not the issue, run BOTH before you buy them. If the dealer doesn't have a demo, ask for a customer(s) that might accommodate your wish... then choose.
Spec's on paper.. weight, hp etc are just that - on paper. They may have no relevance to your use or needs. Many making a recommendation here have not used both...
Some of these trees have rotten wood in them, alot are too knotty for logging. Besides, my uncle does not allow loggers on his property anymore.
I am leaning towards the 460 with a 25" bar. I think I would rather have some extra power , if needed.
Thanks for the opinions everyone, I really do appreciate it!
Tough call!!! Everyone ravs about how smooth the 441 cuts, I've never run one. But I LUV my BB046 (big bore 046, same as 460) it runs about even with a 660 with a 24" and lags as the wood gets larger. But it's what I wanted. Thirsty doesn't even begin to describe this saw!!!! Seriously, I don't leave with less than two gallons of gas for a day of cutting!!!! I can cut two to three times the wood in half the time, but I think it costs more either way
I have seen a stock 046 run a 32" in Oak, not sure I would, and not sure I would with a 441, but it will do it!
I am not sold on the new Strao motors yet either!! The Stihls have held up so far, but it's new technology and it will take time to prove it.
If it was me, I would look for a used 046/460 and either do it myself, or find someone to do a woods port on a BB kit (if you don't mind paying a bit more for gas:hmm3grin2orange: ) take the money you saved vs. buying a new one for bars and chains, and have a heyday!!!!!!!
But I ain't known for being right in the head:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:
With 20inch bars in 20inch wood there isn't 2 cents worth of differance in speed between the two. With long bars yes the 460 pulls away using that extra 1/2 horse it has. Smooth wise, its the 441 100%, filter staying clean tank after tank after tank its the 441 100%. I own them both and I know. Best thing I like about the 441 is the fuel milage. Its a penny pincher on fuel, the 460 is a guzzler. Unless your planning on sawing some big wood using long bars the 441 will do anything the 460 will do and just as fast. It would not surprize me with EPA cracking down that Stihl uses the 441 not only to replace the 440 but the 460 as well. People have been waiting for a 461 to replace the 460 but to date theres been no talk of it from Stihl.
Andy is giving the best advice there is.
Everyone has their own preferences and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks ultimately. How the saw feels in your hands while in use is what matters.
For example, the 460 is one of the most popular and successful saws ever made period,but they are too buzzy to suit me personally. So between those two saws my own choice would be the only slightly less powerful, yet smooth as a baby's behind 441. I am guessing 4 out of 5 folks would choose the 460 because vibration isn't as important to them as to me. No right or wrong here.
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