$6000 for one tree?

Arborist Forum

Help Support Arborist Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
jmack

jmack

ArboristSite Guru
Joined
Apr 13, 2005
Messages
815
Location
ct
experts

treeman82 said:
This reminds me of a story I heard not too long ago. Guy gets a price of $5000 for one tree. Decides it's too much, goes and spends $600 on a chainsaw and hooks the tree up to his jeep. Starts cutting, and the tree starts going back towards his house taking the jeep with it. Somehow the jeep managed to keep the tree off the house, so now the guy calls up the tree company again. They come back and do the job for $10,000.
outstanding !
 
jmack

jmack

ArboristSite Guru
Joined
Apr 13, 2005
Messages
815
Location
ct
wooster

Small Wood said:
I won't hire them. I can't even watch them.




I don't believe they've walked twenty miles to school. Around here they've left the public school system and gone back to one room Amish schools that are located every mile or so on the back roads. Their education is finished after grade 8 and they're free to enter the workforce. There are 14 and 15 year old kids felling, skidding, working in sawmills, running heavy equipment etc. and for the most part they seem to be immune from regulation. Do I agree with that; absolutely not. Would I hire them to crew with me; no thanks. Are they hacks; sure. The point I'm trying to make is that there are real tempering forces on the cost of labor in this area so if you're looking for a 10 grand tree you'll probably have a hard time finding it in Wooster, OH.
Phil
who needs 10k a tree i got you smallwood and your expert estimating skills plus you got this unreal cheap labor thats experienced! c-ya in wooster
 
Tree Wombat

Tree Wombat

ArboristSite Lurker
Joined
Mar 3, 2006
Messages
6
Location
Brisbane Australia
one of my mates has just moved to a new company and they are doing 1 tree, a gum for $32,000aud on the brisbane river:greenchainsaw: The biggest $ tree takedown i was involved in was $28,000 over 4 days, allso on the brisbane river
 
treeman82

treeman82

Addicted to ArboristSite
Joined
May 2, 2001
Messages
3,956
Location
connecticut
Nickrosis said:
Matt, that is exactly your kind of story! You always hear about stuff like that! We should talk more often...sheesh, maybe another Italian dinner where I'll get something besides seafood. Actually, I know I'll be flying into NY later this year, so I'll be sure to factor in an extra day or two.


WTF was up with that? Who the heck comes to NY, goes to an Italian restaurant and gets fish????? It was funny, I went to that same place the following day with my parents and aunt for her birthday luncheon. I did far more damage that day than when you and I went there and YOU were treating.

Let me know when you plan on coming out and we'll go hit the bars or something???


Jmack, I heard this story down at the power equipment shop in Ossining, so it may have happened down county. But a bunch of years back I heard a story about one of the guy's BIL's? The guy had a tree which was an easy drop for an experienced feller, and he had some guys who were gonna come up and help him drop this one tree for nothing. He couldn't wait and wound up dropping the tree across the corner of his shed. I remember going up there one afternoon and grinding out the stump for him along with a few others he had on the property. I looked at just the stump and said to myself "How the heck did he manage to put this on the shed of all places?"
 
jmack

jmack

ArboristSite Guru
Joined
Apr 13, 2005
Messages
815
Location
ct
sing sing

treeman82 said:
WTF was up with that? Who the heck comes to NY, goes to an Italian restaurant and gets fish????? It was funny, I went to that same place the following day with my parents and aunt for her birthday luncheon. I did far more damage that day than when you and I went there and YOU were treating.

Let me know when you plan on coming out and we'll go hit the bars or something???


Jmack, I heard this story down at the power equipment shop in Ossining, so it may have happened down county. But a bunch of years back I heard a story about one of the guy's BIL's? The guy had a tree which was an easy drop for an experienced feller, and he had some guys who were gonna come up and help him drop this one tree for nothing. He couldn't wait and wound up dropping the tree across the corner of his shed. I remember going up there one afternoon and grinding out the stump for him along with a few others he had on the property. I looked at just the stump and said to myself "How the heck did he manage to put this on the shed of all places?"
yes i think a know the shop i bought my 372 there, it amazing isnt it we were gonna go bid a buzz job for the weekend we bid 950.00 the guy goes wild and says i'll do it myself the tree came down so did he, he saved the 950.00. the distraught widow took the life insurance money and moved to florida to cut hair, the pennypinching dude didnt care he was dead from a fall on a stone wall, with the stones cemented in jagged side up, to discourage loitering, my last words to him were we want 950.00(buzzy price) because its dangerous.
 
treeman82

treeman82

Addicted to ArboristSite
Joined
May 2, 2001
Messages
3,956
Location
connecticut
Where and when was this?

BTW, Vinnie is having a sale on Husky saws if you are in the market to buy some more. I don't know what he has them priced at, but he told me to spread the word. I was just down there yesterday, figured I would get a new chain for my 026 and BS with them. Done a bunch of work in the past for pretty much all of those guys. They're a real interesting bunch if you stick around the place.
 
jmack

jmack

ArboristSite Guru
Joined
Apr 13, 2005
Messages
815
Location
ct
while

treeman82 said:
Where and when was this?

BTW, Vinnie is having a sale on Husky saws if you are in the market to buy some more. I don't know what he has them priced at, but he told me to spread the word. I was just down there yesterday, figured I would get a new chain for my 026 and BS with them. Done a bunch of work in the past for pretty much all of those guys. They're a real interesting bunch if you stick around the place.
yeah especially if those dudes come out of the back room the fall was years ago when everyone was hardcore it was in pelham i think , the lastest bad one is dude goes up cleans out tree he's left with stick goes to dump stick / stick sits back on saw / dude panics climbs past notch to get rope in/ tree comes down with dude/ dude is dead! you aready probally heard that one at the dump that was two months ago btw where you dumping??????????????
 
A&Atree

A&Atree

ArboristSite Lurker
Joined
Sep 27, 2005
Messages
35
Location
virgina
the price of a job

from the last snow storm we had here in maryland, we had about 16" very wet snow which led to a large multi leadered tulip populay to uproot and get lodged in another tulip some hazards that we faced were a transformer and 13kv lines it was very close but withing striking distance and always in the back of your mind while in the tree and as usual the uprooted tree was leaning twards the house and that was surley in striking distance. We had some large expenses like the 120ton crane for two days and the total on this job for the one tree was ine the 17000$ range thanks that was not in my back yard lol id have to move
 
A&Atree

A&Atree

ArboristSite Lurker
Joined
Sep 27, 2005
Messages
35
Location
virgina
past jobs

i have been apart of some high dollar trees like 17000,a few 12000 and pretty often 6000-8000 as everyone know it all depends on the location and the risk invloved in getting the tree down safely. there is no tree regardless of the amount of money you can get for the job that is worth getting yourself or someone else hurt in trying to do something without haveing the right equipment there or just not having the experience to get it down safely.
 
notahacker

notahacker

ArboristSite Operative
Joined
Mar 29, 2005
Messages
264
Location
Longmont, CO
Dadatwins said:
That sounds about right, most commercial professional ahrborist make that kind of money daily and are multi-kazillionaries. That why we have so much time to convince others not to get into the biz and steal our gravy. Most will always advise to call a pro to do the work just for the kickback. :cheers: We also have a lot of time to answer ridiculus questions on online treecare/ chainsaw forums, but what else are we going to do, it gets boring counting piles of cash. I advise to pay the company and get the work done ASAP before the price goes up.

Well put!
 
notahacker

notahacker

ArboristSite Operative
Joined
Mar 29, 2005
Messages
264
Location
Longmont, CO
I can only speculate what you mean with your sarcasim.

Anyway, if a customer says to me," XYZ Tree Service bid 5x's as much as you. Why are you so low?" I say, "It is becasue they are not capable of doing it safely and effieciently. So, they cross thier fingers, roll the dice, and hope you don't choose them. Their bid is that high because if they get the job, then they will be making out like a bandit. They can't admit it is out of their leauge, so they try to look bigger than they really are and bid ridicoulsly high."

I am sure that all of us here like to make money, but where do we draw the line for exploitation? :sword:
 
Sirpouralot

Sirpouralot

ArboristSite Lurker
Joined
Apr 2, 2006
Messages
39
Location
Michigan
treeguy6363 said:
younggun said:
the company also sayd it would cost extra to LEAVE the wood[/QUOTE

Quite often it is more work and more cost to leave the wood from my standpoint, IF i have to cut it up in firewood. This means our whole crew has to run saws and dull them, get pinched etc instead of me ( the most experienced ground man ) making 3 or 4 cuts in a 50 ft log and 1 man with a loader picking it all up in a few minutes and its done. This of couse applies to big trunks.....smaller trees most often it is less work to cut it up and leave it.

Yes I agree. When you have a Prentice loader, Crane and so forth, it is much quicker just to haul the wood. A large tree like the Silver maple being described would take considerable time to cut up into 18 inch pieces and would add wear and tear on saws and men. Typically though we do not charge more for leaving the wood, as the market dictates what you can charge. The competition may not have a way to haul the wood and will be cutting there price considerably to leave it.
 
sawn_penn

sawn_penn

ArboristSite Guru
Joined
Feb 1, 2006
Messages
577
Location
Australia
Tree Wombat said:
one of my mates has just moved to a new company and they are doing 1 tree, a gum for $32,000aud on the brisbane river:greenchainsaw: The biggest $ tree takedown i was involved in was $28,000 over 4 days, also on the brisbane river

Now that is totally insane. I have a pretty good (non-tree) job, but at that rate I could take three months to do the work and still be better off.

I'd buy a big box of sandpaper, climb the tree, and start rubbing it down, from the top down. The sawdust would blow away, so I wouldn't need to haul away the bits. :)

It must be that people on the Brisbane River are easily parted from their money.
 
rbtree

rbtree

Addicted to ArboristSite
Joined
May 5, 2001
Messages
5,209
Location
Seattle
clearance said:
Is this alledged tree like 6' at the butt and 200'+ tall? C'mon, 20 hours.?
The most time consuming tree we ever did took 130 manhrs, including wood removal. No crane access. I only got $5k or so. Another bid, at $9k, was more like it....It was a 52 inch dbh cedrus deodar, on a 45 degree slope, house and pool on one side. Had to lift and speedline brush down to the road.

Did a 30 inch incense cedar today, that had failed, and lodged in a smaller port orford, and extended over a house. Today's bill will be about $3k. Still to go is craning out the 24 foot butt log and roots. first the lifted cement walk and steps have to removed. Figure another $1.5k. And, the bent cedar trunk has to be sucked up, and Cobra cabled to the other two trunks. Pics will follow on anothe thread.
 
rbtree

rbtree

Addicted to ArboristSite
Joined
May 5, 2001
Messages
5,209
Location
Seattle
sawn_penn said:
Now that is totally insane. I have a pretty good (non-tree) job, but at that rate I could take three months to do the work and still be better off.

I'd buy a big box of sandpaper, climb the tree, and start rubbing it down, from the top down. The sawdust would blow away, so I wouldn't need to haul away the bits. :)

It must be that people on the Brisbane River are easily parted from their money.

Two things, that's Aussie dollars.....and those eucs are massive! Price sounds well in line to me. They might have needed a 6 man crew and a crane, ya know.
 
sawn_penn

sawn_penn

ArboristSite Guru
Joined
Feb 1, 2006
Messages
577
Location
Australia
rbtree said:
Two things, that's Aussie dollars.....and those eucs are massive! Price sounds well in line to me. They might have needed a 6 man crew and a crane, ya know.

Yes, they are Aussie dollars, but getting things done down here costs about the same (in terms of numbers, not exchange rates.)

I don't know if the tree was a eucalypt, but they don't get THAT big.

I know this isn't a fair comparison, but I wonder how piecework felling rates in forrests compare to this? Not a fair comparision, but the differences in $$$ would be amusing.
 
rbtree

rbtree

Addicted to ArboristSite
Joined
May 5, 2001
Messages
5,209
Location
Seattle
Guess again, sawpenn. Go ask Graeme McMahon about big euc regnans, which can reach 300 feet in 150 years. He is THE premier big tree specialist, prolly in the world, and has done stuff way beyond the capabilites of most of us mere mortal tree workers.....that I guarantee ya! I think his normal dayrate is around $2500 AUD, just for himself......

http://sherbrooketrees.tripod.com/sherbrooketreeservice/index.html

click on photo and video......
 
Sunrise Guy

Sunrise Guy

Addicted to ArboristSite
Joined
Feb 4, 2006
Messages
1,121
Location
Austin,TX
sawn_penn said:
I'd buy a big box of sandpaper, climb the tree, and start rubbing it down, from the top down. The sawdust would blow away, so I wouldn't need to haul away the bits. :)

LMAO! You just gave me a great idea: I'm gonna convert my belt sander to gasoline power and go for it!
 
trevmcrev

trevmcrev

ArboristSite Operative
Joined
Mar 9, 2006
Messages
221
Location
Melbourne, Australia
rbtree said:
Guess again, sawpenn. Go ask Graeme McMahon about big euc regnans, which can reach 300 feet in 150 years. He is THE premier big tree specialist, prolly in the world, and has done stuff way beyond the capabilites of most of us mere mortal tree workers.....that I guarantee ya! I think his normal dayrate is around $2500 AUD, just for himself......

http://sherbrooketrees.tripod.com/sherbrooketreeservice/index.html

click on photo and video......

Agreed, Graham is awesome, seen a number of demonstrations of his. He is a genius at BIIIIIGG, technical, rigging. Anyone can do nothing but learn when around this guy, very inspiring.
Trev
 

Latest posts

Top