Another tree id please

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The way I ID wood is by the cross section of the end grain cut with a razor blade/something sharp and viewed with 5X or better magnification. Bark can vary a lot, even on the same tree, leaves also. In the case of Hophornbeam, it's diffuse porous VS ring porous for Elm. That would be clear from one look with a loupe. Elm also has a wavy pattern to the pores that's very characteristic. If it's ring porous, it's not Hop or Birch. J
 
bigwhiteash said:
The way I ID wood is by the cross section of the end grain cut with a razor blade/something sharp and viewed with 5X or better magnification. Bark can vary a lot, even on the same tree, leaves also. In the case of Hophornbeam, it's diffuse porous VS ring porous for Elm. That would be clear from one look with a loupe. Elm also has a wavy pattern to the pores that's very characteristic. If it's ring porous, it's not Hop or Birch. J
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I will try and do this today
 
image.jpg I cut a round and tried to split it with this. It's all I have at work. It bounced off like the wood was rubber. I will get it cracked open when I get home later
 
bigwhiteash said:
The way I ID wood is by the cross section of the end grain cut with a razor blade/something sharp and viewed with 5X or better magnification. Bark can vary a lot, even on the same tree, leaves also. In the case of Hophornbeam, it's diffuse porous VS ring porous for Elm. That would be clear from one look with a loupe. Elm also has a wavy pattern to the pores that's very characteristic. If it's ring porous, it's not Hop or Birch. J
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do you have a picture of what i'm looking for when I do this?
 
That link has a pic of 'Red Elm', where you can see the wavy pore structure. Oak or Ash are good examples of ring porous. If you look at Maple-Birch-Cherry, you'll see what diffuse porous looks like. Hophornbeam is in that group too. You only need a small X-section of heartwood to ID.
Elm can be a ***** to split by hand and so stringy, it's even a pain with a hydro splitter, DTDT. JinNJ
 
bigwhiteash said:
That seems to narrow it down to Elm or Hackberry. Guess it could be Hackberry, but I'm not familiar with that tree/wood.
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yes I was just goin to say that I saw that hackberry has the same structure as elm. does anything else?
 
I think all the Elms have the wavy thing, Hackberry and that's it. BTW, this way of IDing wood is a helpful tool if you need to know what you have and aren't sure. A gray area is the hybids that show up, but you'll probably still get close enough..
JinNJ
 
I still vote Elm of some sote.
Look back to #45. See how thick the bark is.
HHB has thin bark. Elm has thick bark.

Woody: See if you can get the bark to peel of in long strips.
It might be difficult to start but it should peel.

David
 
DFK said:
I still vote Elm of some sote.
Look back to #45. See how thick the bark is.
HHB has thin bark. Elm has thick bark.

Woody: See if you can get the bark to peel of in long strips.
It might be difficult to start but it should peel.

David
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Hop horn beam is out. We are down to elm and a remote chance of hackberry
 

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