Extremely disturbing to remove a tree?
That misuse of words is like calling the office workers who died in 9/11 heroes. Soldiers who die fighting are heroes, fireman that die helping people are heroes, not office workers caught up in something they have no say in. Denigrates the English langauge. What about when a child is murdered, let me guess, extra extremely disturbing?
I have cut down lots of healthy trees, the people that were paying wanted them gone, simple. If they ask, I offer my opinion, I don't like to cut down big conifers without a good reason, but its not my tree, not my call.
Extremely disturbing to remove a tree?
That misuse of words is like calling the office workers who died in 9/11 heroes. Soldiers who die fighting are heroes, fireman that die helping people are heroes, not office workers caught up in something they have no say in. Denigrates the English langauge. What about when a child is murdered, let me guess, extra extremely disturbing?
I have cut down lots of healthy trees, the people that were paying wanted them gone, simple. If they ask, I offer my opinion, I don't like to cut down big conifers without a good reason, but its not my tree, not my call.
True here too, mate.Yeah true here to mate. Legal just means the lawyers dont care. I simply dont do those jobs anymore, Im an arborist first, paid worker for nobody.
True here too, mate.
Cutting on demand is aerial grunt work, same as to mow lawns, whip weeds, or clear brush for the right amount of money.
Like homo sapiens evolved out of the treedwelling :monkey: , your business evolved out of treecudding by orders, and up to tree care by choice.
moray, those 9th graders are way cool. I'll bet they didn't mind that 2-hour detention, and were much admired by their classmates, who lacked the courage to sit down for what they believed in! :blob6:
The Child is Father to the Man.
or Professional. as Wikipedia defines it, " (capital P)Professionals usually have autonomy in the workplace—they are expected to utilize their **independent judgement and professional ethics in carrying out their responsibilities.[4] This holds true even if they are employees instead of working on their own. Typically a professional provides a service (in exchange for payment or salary), in accordance with established protocols for licensing, ethics, procedures, standards of service and training / certification."A truly professional arborist, ...is ready ... to perform all aspects of said profession to customer satisfaction, whether that be care or elimination. Anything more high minded than that is simple religion.
Not at all; the ones who believed in saving the tree but did not act were more concerned with keeping the teacher and the parent and everyone else satisfied, instead of satisfying the ultimate need for truth, justice and the arboricultural way.Are you assuming that all the classmates were cowards because they didn't sit around a tree?
or Professional. as Wikipedia defines it, " (capital P)Professionals usually have autonomy in the workplace—they are expected to utilize their **independent judgement and professional ethics in carrying out their responsibilities.[4] This holds true even if they are employees instead of working on their own. Typically a professional provides a service (in exchange for payment or salary), in accordance with established protocols for licensing, ethics, procedures, standards of service and training / certification."
Tradesmen and others, like gigolos and dope dealers, can act small p professionally as they Keep the Customer Satisfied (remember the Paul Simon song?), but Timber is a Professional because he is independent.
Can you separate religion from the rest of life? If so, is it relevant? and were you supposed to bring that up in this forum--watch the rules!Not at all; the ones who believed in saving the tree but did not act were more concerned with keeping the teacher and the parent and everyone else satisfied, instead of satisfying the ultimate need for truth, justice and the arboricultural way.
the ones who believed in saving the tree but did not act were more concerned with keeping the teacher and the parent and everyone else satisfied, instead of satisfying the ultimate need for truth, justice and the arboricultural way.
Bigus Termitius---Great post.
Phil
Thats it, I'm gettin on a plane and I'm gonna cut them f#@$%#@ trees myself- for free !Many arborists will walk away from dumb removals; call them idealists if you want. If we're Professional, we are independent, and able to walk. You are right though; we all need money. I often bid $9,999.99 for dumb removals. I sometimes do them at a fair price, if I gain concessions elsewhere.
You are right; ideals do not always rule, but they are a good guide to business growth and other rewards.
Tradesmen may always have to Keep the Customer Satisfied, but that approach also describes the world's oldest "profession", or Paul Simon's dope dealer.
"truth, justice and the arboricultural way.
Touching, very touching. Sounds borrowed though." Not only meant to be touching, but it is the most profitable long term approach, because independent Professionals can get a LOT more $$$ per hour than tradesmen.
O and You are right again; I did paraphrase it, substituting for "arboricultural" for"American".
Gee but its great to be back home
Home is where I want to be.
Ive been on the road so long my friend,
And if you came along
I know you couldnt disagree.
Chorus
Its the same old story
Everywhere I go,
I get slandered,
Libeled,
I hear words I never heard
In the bible
And Im on step ahead of the shoe shine
Two steps away from the county line
Just trying to keep my customers satisfied,
Satisfied.
Deputy sheriff said to me
Tell me what you come here for, boy.
You better get your bags and flee.
Youre in trouble boy,
And youre heading into more.
One protester was removed after she bit an arborist.
Did I not say to send in the dogs and cops with clubs months back? Well? Now look, one of the mutts has bitten a fellow treeman, shoulda listened to old Clearance. And the trees are still there.....Thanks for the update CaveSaw
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