B.S.A. Tree

[rivahrat]

hey all its been a while since my last post.
OK here is the deal.
i live on a boy scout reservation in chesterfield Va.
we have a black walnut in the back yard leaning about 15 degrees, away from the house. its leaning toword a power transformer and our shop. the tree burned from the inside back in march i think it was. before the tree burned it didn't put out much leaves or nuts, but now its full of them. problem is the insurance company wants the tree gone. we just need someone to give it a look and say if it is in bad shape and if it needs to go.

i know some of you guys live in the richmond aria and was wondering if someone would come over and look at it in some free time. i cant afford to pay for a removal or anything but i can provide food and beer.
thanks for any help
Steve
oh and the only pics i can get will come from my cell phone so they would suck.

 

[treeseer]

the tree burned from the inside back in march i think it was.

Huh? how does a tree burn form the inside?

the only pics i can get will come from my cell phone so they would suck.

try em anyway. pm dadatwins or coffeecraver; I won't be back to midlothian for a month or two.

 

[Elmore]

Huh? how does a tree burn form the inside?

Guy...have you never heard of a Burning Love?
<img src="http://www.elvistriunfal.com/images/jumpsuitf/burning%20love/0001.jpg">Just a hunk, a hunk of burning love

 

[Elmore]

Maybe they are equipped with a Ford cruise control switch.

 

[rivahrat]

the hollow in the tree is about 20 feet up. and is from branches breaking off. what caused it to burn is we had a big fire here in march and an ember landed in the hole. ember flew over 100 feet to fly into a 4 inch hole. tree burned for several hours and the fire dept. put about 1000 gal of water in the hole so i would imagine the hollow is quite large.

 

[treeseer]

big hollow 20 ft up, leaning toward lines..call the elec co!

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

The power company will take it down for free if its near transmission lines.
In an ironic twist, because the tree was injured by fire, and the insurance company wants it down, it may be that they are responsible for removal costs! I'm almost sure fire is an insurable claim. Man, that would be sweet!

 

[a_lopa]

that happens here a bit lightning struck hollow tub of **** smouldering away,what do you do if you cant bucket it or fall it?climb the towering inferno,i know a company that did one last year,they got it with a bucket.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

I climbed a burning tree, same situation, spark flew in the hole. Funny part of it was the hose the owner sent up only had enough pressure to deliver water about 40 feet up, about ten feet short.
We finnally got it out, and it still stands several years later.

 

[rivahrat]

the puwer lines are underground. its just the transformer box. the insurance co said to remove it if it need removal or they will drop the insurance. aint that some s**t!

 

[treeseer]

the puwer lines are underground. its just the transformer box. the insurance co said to remove it if it need removal or they will drop the insurance. aint that some s**t!

I don't blame the ins co one bit.

The transformer box would be damaged by the tree when it fails, right?
So it's still the utility's problem, right?
Don't know how long the line's been underground but if the utility trenched roots to install it they are partly to blame for the tree's condition, and should be all the more willing to take it down.

 

[Trinity Honoria]

rivahrat,
In case you don't know, asking for someones free time to come look at your tree and saying you can only offer free beer and food is an insult to our profession. Do you work for beer?

Dan Nelson

perhaps i am totally confused... but if you live on a boy scout reservation, exactly who is the land owner? you or the boy scouts? locally, i've had friends who lived on girl scout property as the caretakers, but they weren't responsible for the expenses to maintain the property...

as to expecting professional help for peanuts, i've had that problem with one of my businesses... "you do resumes... can you look mine over?" well, no, i can't... unless you pay me what i charge... not even for free beer & food...

 

[rivahrat]

well i don't mean to insult anyone in the process. and did not say i would not pay anything however i would feed you and give a drink if you wanted one. free time should not always mean free labor. some people just assume everything. i only said i cant pay for a removal. I'm quite capable of doing so on my own or with a little help form a few friends. can you sit there and tell me that after a long day you would not take a free beer? you never know whoever came out to look just may end up with free fire wood and a place to come and play with their saws. i would imagine fire wood would be a nice thing to have this year with fuel prices the way they are.another advantage would be if they want the tree they can have it.

now again i was not intending on offending someone. however did you ever think it is a tad rude to carry on another conversation in a thread that has nothing to do with the topic? i thought AS had an off the topic forum? now i know I'm not perfect. however you should always think of some of the things you have done before accusing someone of insulting others.
sorry for the rant. just thought it should be said.

 

[rivahrat]

boy svouts own the property however as care takers it is our responsibility to make arangements for property management. and again i never said i cant pay for someone to look at the tree. just cant afford a removal. would feed whoever came to look. free time like i said isnt always free work. just a time you have open. you tell me what it would cost to took at the tree and i will tell you if i can afford it. as an extra for usting some of your free time wich i think is always hard to come by, id give a good meal at the end of the day. sorry i didnt spell out everything. i clear things up for you?

 

[Trinity Honoria]

boy svouts own the property however as care takers it is our responsibility to make arangements for property management. and again i never said i cant pay for someone to look at the tree. just cant afford a removal... i clear things up for you?

actually, no you didn't. there's a difference, in my understanding, from making arrangements for property management to paying for maintenance beyond the normal skill level expected of a 'care taker.'

like i said, i was confused... i still am, but it really doesn't matter what this simple woman in South Carolina thinks, anyway... afterall, i can't give an advice on what the tree needs, nor do i drink beer. guess that sums it up.

so let me digress to another comment you made... i read a lot of the current threads and the ancient threads... very few are single minded... they tend to ebb and flow with the moods and knowledge level of the contributors... which makes AS full of commentaries that are delightfully rich and colorful, like tapestries...

 

[treeseer]

Amazing how these threads veer away from the simple answers.

If the tree burned that bad 20' up, it is likely to be literally cooked. For confirmation, you need not beg arborists to give an official declaration of death in exchange for a free meal. I've met a lot of these guys and let's just say that they do not look underfed. Just lean a ladder up to the cavity and look inside and take some pictures with your cellcam and post them here.

hey I was a boy scout; I'll help the cause anyday but I'd rather not drive to chesterfield when technology is at our fingertips. You're no relation to riverrat the arborist are you?

You buncha veerin tree :alien: hosers you.

 

[DDM]

Sounds like the you need to get the boy scouts out with there Hatchets to work over the tree.

 

[rivahrat]

the inspection is payed for with the money we can spend on such things. ill see if i can post a few pics. the outside of the tree looks good for me. and the reason i as for help on here is i am not an arborist and do not pretend to be. even a so called simple woman from south Carolina may still know much more than i do. and again i never said i cant pay for the inspection. just not a removal. i value the advice i would get from AS much more than some guy who said yup i can get er down for ya. anyways ill get some pics and we can go from there.

 

[rivahrat]

im sure i could arange a place to dump wood as well. hell i copuld use it this winter as could most people out here. but knowing my luck we would have a hot winter just like the summer, so spliting would be torture.

 

[treeseer]

Walnut's pretty easy to split. Hollow walnut is very easy to split. Re removal expense, if the lower trunk is sound, you may have salvage value in it to defray removal expense. Good veneer logs are worth thousands. Also contact local wood turners; they may help cut it up in return for some wood. Send pictures when you can ok?