Can you tell me what model Stihl this is ....

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Also - what do you know about this one:

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The second saw is a Shindaiwa, but I don't know much about them. they are both for sale on Utica NY craigs list $30 and $40, claims both ran when put away & the Stihl needs a muffler.
 
Shindaiwa 500

An older model comparable in power to the 488 and 490. I ran one for years and just picked up another off e-bay. No complaints.
 

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