Rx7man
Cattle Rubbing Post
Here's a picture of a Holder.. I can't remember where I found it, I think a member on another site has it
With all the engine knowledge here I have often thought there should be a place to discuss engines other than saws. Or am I the only one?
I've been looking for a Holder for years... hard to find.. they are really cool!
How's this for an old tiller.. Ariens with a Ariens branded Wisconsin motor.. It wasn't a "you suck" deal, valves were seized, magneto was rusted, carb was gummed, but I had it running in a day.. replaced all the seals and gave it a coat of Allis Chalmers orange paint... It can sit all winter and it usually fires up on the first pull. Wet clutches, no belts, and a HEAVY duty chain drive.. No matter what you pay, you just can't get a tiller built like these old ones at any price.
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Thanks!beautiful restoration! great pix, enjoyed seeing it... but to be honest... not too sure how many hrs my tail end could handle that seat for if out in a ruff pasture...
Well I don't want to derail this fellas thread but starting a thread in the chainsaw forum may not be the place. I am not sure how to really go about it or if there would be any interest.>should be a place to discuss engines other than saws.
I agree with you. I would like it. would be interesting. lots here are engine savy, if not all! and no doubt plenty of very interesting days of yesterday engines...
u could consider maybe to fire it up... easy to start a thread... here, I will volunteer to help. a title:
Engines Other Than Saws
Well I don't want to derail this fellas thread but starting a thread in the chainsaw forum may not be the place. I am not sure how to really go about it or if there would be any interest.
That's pretty darned close to original color scheme.. Allis Orange and Ariens orange are pretty close (husky orange too )... the green was just a dark green rattle can. The gray on the engine is my custom mix... I had some white paint and some black paint, and I just mixed it until it looked like the shade of gray I thought was appropriateinteresting tiller! seized valves to running in a day! you are a talented engine overhauler, no doubt about it. nice foto. I assume to cover with name on it is the PTO side of trans... and a chain? then connect to and drives the rear rotor tiller tines? love the colors... and bar tread tires.
Very nice restoration! Holders were a real workhorse for a small tractor...
That's pretty darned close to original color scheme.. Allis Orange and Ariens orange are pretty close (husky orange too )... the green was just a dark green rattle can. The gray on the engine is my custom mix... I had some white paint and some black paint, and I just mixed it until it looked like the shade of gray I thought was appropriate
We replaced those tires with new identical ones.. *darned* expensive at $75 each
Very nice restoration! Holders were a real workhorse for a small tractor...
We have a big cousin to the Holder.. a Ford County.. they aren't articulated, but kinda look the same.. VERY VERY heavy at about 7 tons (80 gallons of liquid in each tire and 100 lb wheel weights, nevermind everything else is cast iron), and you need about an acre to turn them around, but *nothing* short of a crawler or a tractor double the size will out pull them.. I can scrape wet cow manure uphill with a 9' blade and it won't spin. I might put a Cummins 6bt in it someday.
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@Backyard Lumberjack County Tractors were around from the mid 60's into the 70's... This is one of the earliest models, a "Super Six", it had about 90 engine horsepower, so a little underpowered for the traction... Later models were numbered and the horsepower part of the model number,... can't remember if it was the first or last digits though. Transmission on the early ones like ours are 6 speed over 2 ranges, but a funky pattern... 1 and 2 in low range, 3 and 4 in high, back to low for 5th, and 6th in high again... Its not a bad idea, you can get yourself going with a load and still have decent top speed because of the high gear in that range is very high.. Later I think they were a 4 speed gearbox with 2 ranges.
They have a unique front drive system.. Rather than have a differential in front, which would raise the height of the tractor, they have 2 driveshafts coming from the rear differential, and a right-angle drive for the front wheels... when you engage diff-lock, everything is turning no matter what.. I've only got it stuck once in 20 years.
I've used it to tow a nice 24" dbh fir log about 50 feet long up and out of a bank... it did it with authority, In Scotland they were extensively used in the forest industry
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