I picked up a two month used MS460 Arctic a couple nights ago. The previous owner had removed the heated handle and not mentioned that to me on the phone. So I was not overly impressed as it was over an hour in a snow storm. Blah blah blah, the guy through in a bunch of extras to sweeten the deal. One of which was what at first glance was an old 440...long story short it turned out to be an old 064. it pulls over and appears to be complete , so I'm hoping it might be a good project saw one day.