Heavy leaning trees

[gink595]

This proably isn't the place to post this but what are some techniques you all use keep heavy leaning trees from barber chairing. I have a few to cut and usually have not much luck with these types.
Before anyone mentions it, I don't believe the 361 would be of much help.

 

[Haywire Haywood]

Face cut as usual, bore the tree, establish your hinge and then cut toward the back, leaving a 'holding strap' of wood. Pull out of the cut and then release the strap from the back like a normal falling cut.

I've also read about a technique involving boring the face to take the center out before you start the back cut. Not real familiar with that one and standing in front of a heavy leaner while you cut the heart of it doesn't appeal to me much.

I've never done either of them, only read about the techniques. I'm sure a real faller will show up shortly with better or more detailed info.

Ian

 

[SawTroll]

Face cut as usual, bore the tree, establish your hinge and then cut toward the back, leaving a 'holding strap' of wood. Pull out of the cut and then release the strap from the back like a normal falling cut. ....

I prefere that one as well, never tried the other one.......

 

[Tzed250]

The only reason you bore the center is to reduce fiber pull. If it is not a money tree then no need, unless you are trying to fell a tree more than double the bar length in diameter.

 

[Burvol]

Strap it. Face boring is not right to me... The strap accomplishes what you want with out cutting your hinge wood at all.

 

[SawTroll]

The only reason you bore the center is to reduce fiber pull. If it is not a money tree then no need, unless you are trying to fell a tree more than double the bar length in diameter.

I believe the more than twise the bar lenght thing is the most common application over here.........

 

[2dogs]

The Coos Bay cut is another good technique for heavy leaners too. It doesn't give directional control but it will allow you to work safely especially if you have a longer bar. Make sure your saw is runnning strong and your chain is perfectly sharp so you can cut fast.

I sometimes strap the tree or use a chain and binder to help prevent splitting. Then I use a conventional cut, very rarely a face bore. The face bore is tough to do on a leaner on steep ground.

 

[GASoline71]

The Coos Bay cut is another good technique for heavy leaners too. It doesn't give directional control but it will allow you to work safely especially if you have a longer bar. Make sure your saw is runnning strong and your chain is perfectly sharp so you can cut fast.

I was going to metion the same thing... but to add that there are variations of the Coos Bay cut that give good control of directional falling.

Gary

 

[2dogs]

Gary help me out here with the CB variations. I have done a Coos Bay maybe 2 dozen times and mostly on leaners on steep ground. I generally make a small notch about 2" into the trunk and then cut each side of the tree so the cuts line up with the direction of fall. Then I back cut as fast as possible. The only variations I have done is to taper one cut so there is more holding wood on the side I want the tree to swing to. It won't swing much but may compensate for a compound lean. The other is to cut a small step and pound in a "block dutchman" to direct the fall away from that side. Both of my variations still mean I cut hot and fast.

 

[Grande Dog]

Binders are the best way to take number of unknown anomalies like a hollow core, punky wood, or rot mostly out of the equation.

 

[Lakeside53]

yep...

Cutting big leaning alders out here can result in a long section blowing out on the back... Bind it above the cut.

 

[wireedm]

Guys, I've cut a log or two in my life but have never seen many different techniques used to fell a tree. Is there a site available that you know of showing the different ways?

 

[tek9tim]

D. Douglas Dent's book goes over the west coast techniques pretty well. Dunno what the bible is for east coast cutting.

 

[056kid]

Thats a good book.

And face boaring is great!!

 

[Jacob J.]

Wide open face or conventional face with a bottom snipe are also options.

 

[pbuehning]

Still learning and after searching I can't find much about a Coos Bay cut - does it go by another name for us East coasters.
Thx.

 

[DarylB]

Got a leaning tree to cut? This is what I use to help!

 

[stevethekiwi]

big heavy leaning trees are my favourite...

instead of the traditional wedge that looks like this:
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I cut the big leaners like this:

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Then bore the centre out, and start the back cut from the centre of the tree where you want the hinge established, working towards the back of the tree. leaving a section as a strap to stop a premature de-ereculation. Repeat from other side, then cut the strap starting from the back. falls where I want every time with no damage to trunk.

 

[stihl 440]

leaners

Bore into face, bore backcut, leave strap, cut strap.:greenchainsaw:

 

[scotclayshooter]

What about climb into cherry picker go up as far as pos and cut the tree down from the top