How much to charge for this job?

[sgreanbeans]

No, not really, its just we have been down the road, that is a place for us to talk about our day to day. It gets real annoying when newbs come in and try to talk the talk and ask questions when they have 101 to for that, or when a guy has only been doing it for a year, then thinks he has it all figured out and comes in and starts dishin' out advice, most of the time, on something they have really very little exp with. So, we don't get whiny, well maybe we do, but mainly, just tired.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Don't start talking about gutter cleaning or Murph will steal his client. $13 sounds low, in my area we try for $14.50.

Doesn't Murph usually clean the gutter before its reinstalled?

 

[Lil Red]

No, not really, its just we have been down the road, that is a place for us to talk about our day to day. It gets real annoying when newbs come in and try to talk the talk and ask questions when they have 101 to for that, or when a guy has only been doing it for a year, then thinks he has it all figured out and comes in and starts dishin' out advice, most of the time, on something they have really very little exp with. So, we don't get whiny, well maybe we do, but mainly, just tired.

Shouldn't it be the the opposite then? If us young guys are asking for help and "you" turn "your" cheek , that just opens up the door for more hacks and what not. If someone one asks a simple question, get over "yourself" and answer it, get off "your" pedistool and realize this is a forum to help people.

This rant is not intended at anyone person in this forum. So no one should personally get but hurt, but it is a forum.

 

[Gologit]

Shouldn't it be the the opposite then? If us young guys are asking for help and "you" turn "your" cheek , that just opens up the door for more hacks and what not. If someone one asks a simple question, get over "yourself" and answer it, get off "your" pedistool and realize this is a forum to help people.

This rant is not intended at anyone person in this forum. So no one should personally get but hurt, but it is a forum.

You'll get a lot more help and advice if you do things the way the guys here want them done. Ask your questions in 101. You'll be doing yourself, and the guys that can help you, a big favor that way.

If you piss these guys off they'll simply quit responding to you at all.

Stick around, do things the way they're supposed to be done and learn something. Or not...your choice entirely.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Shouldn't it be the the opposite then? If us young guys are asking for help and "you" turn "your" cheek , that just opens up the door for more hacks and what not. If someone one asks a simple question, get over "yourself" and answer it, get off "your" pedistool and realize this is a forum to help people.

This rant is not intended at anyone person in this forum. So no one should personally get but hurt, but it is a forum.

Its more than a forum if you hang around long enough you'll see that its more a Brotherhood and 99.9% of the guys here would give the skin off their back to another member if it was needed. Jasha and Mitch are 2 examples right now.

 

[Rickytree]

Its more than a forum if you hang around long enough you'll see that its more a Brotherhood and 99.9% of the guys here would give the skin off their back to another member if it was needed. Jasha and Mitch are 2 examples right now.

I'm scared to ask what percentile I fall into?

 

[Rickytree]

Shouldn't it be the the opposite then? If us young guys are asking for help and "you" turn "your" cheek , that just opens up the door for more hacks and what not. If someone one asks a simple question, get over "yourself" and answer it, get off "your" pedistool and realize this is a forum to help people.

This rant is not intended at anyone person in this forum. So no one should personally get but hurt, but it is a forum.

The bottom line is just that "The bottom line" what are your expenses to operate and would you like to grow your business? Profit has to be made and there is little profit if any making 13 dollars an hour. That is embarrassing to be honest, for you anyways. Learn from your mistakes and move on. Pricing is just as much of a skill as climbing and roping, maybe even more so. Stay thirsty my friend.

 

[treeclimber101]

Lil red the hell with the rest of these guys , just ask me all your questions and I will answer them , with true" 101 "fashion ,

 

[treemandan]

Shouldn't it be the the opposite then? If us young guys are asking for help and "you" turn "your" cheek , that just opens up the door for more hacks and what not. If someone one asks a simple question, get over "yourself" and answer it, get off "your" pedistool and realize this is a forum to help people.

This rant is not intended at anyone person in this forum. So no one should personally get but hurt, but it is a forum.

Your logic is flawed. I, like everybody else, am downright offended. Put in some years working at a tree company, taking classes and you won't be asking anymore stupid questions will you now? You will feel better about the whole thing too, trust me, best advice yet, ask anybody.

Actually the best advice is to forget this tree work bull#### and major in world economics.

 

[newsawtooth]

Shouldn't it be the the opposite then? If us young guys are asking for help and "you" turn "your" cheek , that just opens up the door for more hacks and what not. If someone one asks a simple question, get over "yourself" and answer it, get off "your" pedistool and realize this is a forum to help people.

This rant is not intended at anyone person in this forum. So no one should personally get but hurt, but it is a forum.

Meh...the real problem is the original question. We can't answer it, for what will become obvious reasons. Eventually with a few more years under your belt you"ll realize why.

 

[treemandan]

meh...the real problem is the original question. We can't answer it, for what will become obvious reasons. Eventually with a few more years under your belt you"ll realize why.

afnmen


It may not seem like but we here at Arboristsitedotcom are here to help and help we shall.

 

[Lil Red]

Your logic is flawed. I, like everybody else, am downright offended. Put in some years working at a tree company, taking classes and you won't be asking anymore stupid questions will you now? You will feel better about the whole thing too, trust me, best advice yet, ask anybody.

Actually the best advice is to forget this tree work bull#### and major in world economics.

But you also said (or insinuated) not to ask anyone. :confused2: Jk. Your a little off in your message though, doesn't pertain to me a whole lot. Don't forget I was just asking a simple question how much I should or could bill the homeowner with out cleaning her out and retaining her business, of the course the correct answer is do what is right.

 

[Lil Red]

Your logic is flawed. I, like everybody else, am downright offended. Put in some years working at a tree company, taking classes and you won't be asking anymore stupid questions will you now? You will feel better about the whole thing too, trust me, best advice yet, ask anybody.

Actually the best advice is to forget this tree work bull#### and major in world economics.

Oh I already have a degree in Finance and Communication Studies - 2 of them in fact, didn't really enjoy doing what either of those fields had to offer.

 

[Gologit]

Anyone smell troll yet??

Yup.

 

[no tree to big]

Don't forget I was just asking a simple question how much I should or could bill the homeowner with out cleaning her out and retaining her business, of the course the correct answer is do what is right.

I still don't think you get the point here we can not tell you or even suggest how much to charge for a job because of about a million variables that all have to be taken into account and you have reviled nothing except, they might have to be rigged and she is loaded are you going to pay your helper out of your $13

Have you done this before? cause it kinda sounds like you have no clue and should be supervised by an adult :msp_wink:

 

[Lil Red]

I still don't think you get the point here we can not tell you or even suggest how much to charge for a job because of about a million variables that all have to be taken into account and you have reviled nothing except, they might have to be rigged and she is loaded are you going to pay your helper out of your $13

Have you done this before? cause it kinda sounds like you have no clue and should be supervised by an adult :msp_wink:

No maybe your not getting it. Anyway, its settled, I felt comfortable with $70 and she was thrilled and wants more work done. And no this is not my first rodeo nor am I a troll. I had flick you guys a little crap, as you flicked me some, calm down.

 

[Rickytree]

Oh I already have a degree in Finance and Communication Studies - 2 of them in fact, didn't really enjoy doing what either of those fields had to offer.

So how long were you there for $70? and how many trees did you climb? Just curious, tis all.

 

[kodiakyardboy]

$70 isn't worth getting off the couch. Have you researched what "professionals" are charging in your area? Likely a few bucks more.

 

[St. John]

Tree work pricing....

I read a good article, will look for it and post it when I can find it. Called "Good tree work should not be inexpensive".

You are risking your life when you are more than 15 feet off the ground. Insurance, license, bond, and taxes.

I am a former full time tree pro who has changed careers and kept my lic, bond, and insurance for doing weekend work.

I try to book at $50-$125 per hour, however, I estimate my time, then provide a fixed price. That way if a chain breaks or something, people aren't paying for my time to fix it. If I am faster, better for me.

I often base my price on liability or risk. Limbing up Firs with nothing under neath, the lower end of the range. Rigging something down with a deck or house underneath, more.

Ground labor and clean up would cost more. Fortunately I live in an area where burning is allowed 9 months of the year. When burning isn't an option, I have someone I refer for cleanup and they price it separately.

$13 per hour is barely above minimum wage in Washington. This is a skilled profession or job or trade or whatever you want to call it.

I only do a few jobs on the weekends but I still pay the LIC, BOND, INS and state taxes on it.

Just my $0.02.

 

[St. John]

One more thing...

My first "solo" job I grossly underbid.

I ended up working for 8 days, and paying $700 dollars for the privilege of doing it.

The ground guys got paid and the customer was satisfied. I learned more from that experience than I would have otherwise.

Don't be afraid to make a profit. That is why we do this.

Full timers or weekenders.