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cj7jeep81

saw some nice 5 gallon containers...$10-$15 each, maples, oaks and others. Easy ship to Indiana.

What is your budget?

www.jfschmidt.com just had current availability...many good 2 gallon vigor liners

email or pm if you need more info
 
Magnolias

An assortment of Magnolias would look good on this property.
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/Elmore/Magnolias/Magnolia3.jpg">
 
A message from J. Frank Schmidt

treedoc1 said:
saw some nice 5 gallon containers...$10-$15 each, maples, oaks and others. Easy ship to Indiana.

What is your budget?

www.jfschmidt.com just had current availability...many good 2 gallon vigor liners

email or pm if you need more info

"Requirements for ordering
Due to the wholesale-only nature of our business, a $2,500 minimum order is required. Our sales are limited to the landscape and nursery trades and to companies with valid state nursery dealer licenses. Those who meet this requirement are invited to contact us via telephone or e-mail for a copy of our current wholesale price catalog and stock availability."
Yeah, that's their stated policy. It still wouldn't hurt to contact them, though. Unless your one of them "sensitive" types. :cry:
 
Sorry Elmore

Sorry to intrude on your little empire
I bought and sold over a thousand trailers a year for quite a few years as a rewholesaler.
Can't compare with your knowledge though.
I'm out of here
 
These sensitive types.... (and my being one of them) we're our own worst enemies.

Treedoc, get your butt back here.

Without defending Elmore, all Elmore did was quote the written policy, which to me says "We don't want to dink with small-timers, non-dealers, etc."

Elmore do you have some empire you're not tellin us about? Mebbe Doc is exaggerating. If he's a hypersensitive over-exaggerator, heck, I'm married to one of those. I feel like Doc and I are old friends.

Doc, get back here. We're just throwing down information, not getting in snits. Or is there something I'm missing here?
 
Physician heal thyself

treedoc1 said:
Sorry to intrude on your little empire
I bought and sold over a thousand trailers a year for quite a few years as a rewholesaler.
Can't compare with your knowledge though.
I'm out of here
No need for sorrow and your not intruding on anyone's empire...are you paranoid or something? I'm just playing the devil's advocate when it comes to purchasing material from large wholesalers. Actually more a realist. Some will fill smaller orders. I just don't think Baileys or J Frank Schmidt will. They might. Try. Give em' a call. It doesn't hurt to inquire. I may be proven wrong. Many wholesalers will sell to most anyone although it is undermining their base. In the long run it is the almighty green that makes the decision. A nursery such as Heritage Seedlings or Rennerwood Tree Farm might be more obliging than the big boys. Where you gonna go and what ya gonna do? By the way, what does trailer sales have to do with the green industry? I used to work for Safeway but I don't think that makes a difference. I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express, once. ;)
 
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Thanks for all the links and advice. As far as budget, I really don't have anything set. Can't afford to spend too much at once, but would like to get some planting done this coming spring. Magnolia's would like nice, as would a lot of the other recommendations.
I was out at the property cutting firewood over the weekend (a tree had blown over across the main path). It's much more depressing in the winter, its a lot easier to see all the downed trees. But, not too many as a percentage of all trees. Just a lot easier to see with snow on the ground and no vegetation. But, I did finally get a chance to take a bunch more pictures.
 
glens said:
I'd put out a bunch of black locust and use/sell it for firewood.&nbsp; 30 years is just right.

Glen

Interesting. Is anyone doing this sucessfully? Is there an approximate cordage figure for Locusts at 30 years? I'd be grateful if you have any links that discuss this. Once planted, would these renew themselves after harvest?
 
I indirectly mentioned that excellent link in an earlier post with a link to the Virginia Tech. website, which also provides it.

They'll easily get 70' &times; 24" DBH in 30 years, and that will provide at least a cord of arguably the best overall quality firewood.&nbsp; They're beautiful in bloom, and the aroma of the flowers can be appreciated from even a great distance downwind.&nbsp; I love to drive around the countryside with my windows down in late spring.&nbsp; It evokes memories of grandma's house...

Glen
 
cj7jeep81 said:
Some of you may have seen my other post, but I recently purchased 16 wooded acres that had been heavily logged 7 or 8 years ago. Many trees have blown over, and there are a few pretty bare spots. I would like to replant some of these areas, but am unsure of what to plant.
One thought was to plant some black walnuts, and possibly cut them down when I retire for a little extra cash (probably in another 30 years or so). However, I'd imagine by that time I wouldn't want to, and would just leave them up.
Any other ideas for something that might have some good value in that time period?

When thing of Black Walnut,keep this in mind.
Implications for Horticulture

Gardens should be located away from black walnut trees to prevent damage to susceptible plants. If proximity to such trees is unavoidable, then raised beds afford a means of protection. However, the bed must be constructed in such a way as to minimize tree root penetration into the raised portion. Care must then be taken to keep the beds free of black walnut leaf litter or nuts. If a garden is separated from a black walnut tree by a rock wall, driveway, or other physical barrier, then root extension growth into the garden area may be limited and juglone toxicity problems minimized.

From observation of native stands of black walnut, decreased toxicity seems to be associated with excellent soil drainage, even among sensitive species. Thus, any steps that can be taken to improve drainage, such as additions of organic matter or replacement of existing soil with a lighter type, should tend to minimize toxicity problems in a garden area.

Leaves, bark, or wood chips of black walnut should not be used to mulch landscape or garden plants. Even after a period of composting, such refuse may release small amounts of juglone.


Plants Sensitive to Juglone
Landscape plants:

black alder (Alnus);* azalea;
basswood; *white birches;
Hopa crabapple*; hackberry;
Amur honeysuckle;
Japanese larch;* lespedeza;
lilac;* saucer magnolia;
silver maple;* mountain laurel;
loblolly pine; *red pine;
scotch pine; *white pine;
potentilla;* privet;
rhododendron;* Norway spruce


Plants Tolerant of Juglone
Landscape plants:

red cedar;* crabapple;
elm;* winged euonymus;
forsythia;* hawthorn;
hemlock; *hickories;
black locust;* most maples;
oaks;* autumn olive;
pachysandra;* pawpaw;
persimmon;* wild rose;
sycamore;* most viburnums;
Virginia creeper

http://www.wvu.edu/~agexten/hortcult/fruits/blkwalnt.htm
 
Choices

Tree Machine said:
Thanks, Norm. More excellent material. The problem CJ7 may have is <i>too many</i> choices.
You can never have too many choices. You just have to research them and decide which is best or better than the others. As far as availability, there are a lot of different species available throughout the country and probably more than you know of locally. If you are in a hurry and need to install something by a certain time, then you may be subject to immediate availability but in the case of a long term planting plan, I don't suggest rushing out and obtaining junk trees to install. Patience is a virtue and so is persistence.
 
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Secrets Of Companion Planting For Successful Gardening

by Louise Riotte, Garden Way Books.

Not only a soil/gardening book but a mind stimulator as well.
 

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