+1 those horizontal likes threw me through a loop... but the inside isnt red enough to be any cherry
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+1 those horizontal likes threw me through a loop... but the inside isnt red enough to be any cherry
ShaneLogs
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You are right. The problem is that sugar maple hybridizes with black maple, and silver maple with red maple when they live side by side. That is the reason why the leaves are really close appearance. It is easy to get confuse....I think the best way is to compare three aspects of the wood when you are not sure, and thanks for forums like this one to get good infos and knowledge. All together...we know everything
That looks like it was a real nice looking tree there!
Ductape
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I don't know why, but the absolute biggest trees I ever get are Sugar Maples....... just dumb luck I guess. A woman my wife works with had one damaged in a storm, so the rest had to come down. With three people cutting off of it, I still ended up with 2+ cord. Aside from Oak, its definitely the best firewood I end up with around here.
Here are a couple pics of one I got 6+ cord out of.
Here are a couple pics of one I got 6+ cord out of.
ShaneLogs
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I don't know why, but the absolute biggest trees I ever get are Sugar Maples....... just dumb luck I guess. A woman my wife works with had one damaged in a storm, so the rest had to come down. With three people cutting off of it, I still ended up with 2+ cord. Aside from Oak, its definitely the best firewood I end up with around here.
Here are a couple pics of one I got 6+ cord out of.
That looks like it was a nice tree! Have fun and stay safe!
Happy Cutting,
Shane
Ductape
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Had a couple big crotches rotting / splitting hanging over a barn....... had to go before it squashed the barn. Sure made nice firewood though.
Arbonaut
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Big-Time Green Rep for Streblerm! Accidently gave some to Shane Logs, too. Sorry Shaner.
haveawoody
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sw18x,
In NY you should find lots of sugar maple.
Telling sugar maple apart from Silver maple is pretty easy, if the look similar but you can't peel of chips of bark you probably have Sugar.
Cutting them is a sure tell, silver is easy and sugar hard.
But in NY you should look for adds that say (dead elm) or elm anything, your in prime Rock elm teritory and once you burn it Sugar maple becomes a very secondary thing
About 1/2 of the elm in your location is Rock elm the other 1/2 american elm.
Rock elm will test your saw, your back, your woodstove and ability to live in tropical temperatures indoors in winter
In NY you should find lots of sugar maple.
Telling sugar maple apart from Silver maple is pretty easy, if the look similar but you can't peel of chips of bark you probably have Sugar.
Cutting them is a sure tell, silver is easy and sugar hard.
But in NY you should look for adds that say (dead elm) or elm anything, your in prime Rock elm teritory and once you burn it Sugar maple becomes a very secondary thing
About 1/2 of the elm in your location is Rock elm the other 1/2 american elm.
Rock elm will test your saw, your back, your woodstove and ability to live in tropical temperatures indoors in winter
Wow, my experience would not be the same. I like red maple but I love sugar maple, it definitely burns hotter and much longer for me, right up there with oak.
AIM
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Our red maple in NW Ohio looks like this.
Ohio Trees - Red Maple
The bark can be quite different from tree to tree but the leaves are the same.
Ohio Trees - Red Maple
The bark can be quite different from tree to tree but the leaves are the same.
haveawoody
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peterc38,
Dito for me with Sugar over Red.
Not much betwwen oak and Sugar maple IMO.
I think Norway maple gets a bad rap, i find it much like ash in all aspects, just a bit longer lasting and hotter than ash.
And just like ash not the worlds best coaling wood.
Dito for me with Sugar over Red.
Not much betwwen oak and Sugar maple IMO.
I think Norway maple gets a bad rap, i find it much like ash in all aspects, just a bit longer lasting and hotter than ash.
And just like ash not the worlds best coaling wood.
ShaneLogs
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Thanks for the elm tip. Anybody got some pics of rock elm? A buddy of mine has a friend with an elm he wants removed, I was going to help him tackle it for a favor but if it's a rock elm that's something to get excited about. I never get oak and only once scored a bit of black locust; got lucky with a couple honey locust scores last year but other than that I never seem to hook up on the top of the btu chart.
haveawoody
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sw18x,
Your welcome.
Here is a couple pictures<img src=http://www.arboristsite.com/attachments/firewood-heating-wood-burning-equipment/235357d1335260192-rock2-jpg>
<img src=http://www.arboristsite.com/attachments/firewood-heating-wood-burning-equipment/235358d1335260193-rock1-jpg>
The leaf of rock elm has an almost hairy underneath, american elm does not.
Other things that help ID rock elm is a deeper furrowed bark with almost diamond shape, most rock elm bark has almost cream color splotches in the bark, american elm has cream lines through the bark and most times all over the bark, but when you start cutting you will know for sure when you check the sharpness of your chain right away LOL
You can't loose on elm. even American elm is decent firewood, just painfull to split.
Your welcome.
Here is a couple pictures<img src=http://www.arboristsite.com/attachments/firewood-heating-wood-burning-equipment/235357d1335260192-rock2-jpg>
<img src=http://www.arboristsite.com/attachments/firewood-heating-wood-burning-equipment/235358d1335260193-rock1-jpg>
The leaf of rock elm has an almost hairy underneath, american elm does not.
Other things that help ID rock elm is a deeper furrowed bark with almost diamond shape, most rock elm bark has almost cream color splotches in the bark, american elm has cream lines through the bark and most times all over the bark, but when you start cutting you will know for sure when you check the sharpness of your chain right away LOL
You can't loose on elm. even American elm is decent firewood, just painfull to split.
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haveawoody
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The BTU players
Rock Elm 32,000,000
Shagbark Hickory 30,600,000
White Oak 30,600,000
Bitternut Hickory 29,200,000
Sugar Maple 29,000,000
Beech 27,800,000
Red Oak 27,300,000
Yellow Birch 26,200,000
Red Elm 25,400,000
White Ash 25,000,000
White Elm 24,500,000
Red Maple 24,000,000
Tamarack 24,000,000
Black Cherry 23,500,000
White Birch 23,400,000
Black Ash 22,600,000
Green Ash 22,100,000
Silver Maple 21,700,000
Manitoba Maple 19,300,000
Rock Elm 32,000,000
Shagbark Hickory 30,600,000
White Oak 30,600,000
Bitternut Hickory 29,200,000
Sugar Maple 29,000,000
Beech 27,800,000
Red Oak 27,300,000
Yellow Birch 26,200,000
Red Elm 25,400,000
White Ash 25,000,000
White Elm 24,500,000
Red Maple 24,000,000
Tamarack 24,000,000
Black Cherry 23,500,000
White Birch 23,400,000
Black Ash 22,600,000
Green Ash 22,100,000
Silver Maple 21,700,000
Manitoba Maple 19,300,000
I hate burning Silver Maple. It's like burning cardboard. I have quite a bit of it (unfortunately). It has it's place in the early fall and late spring when you don't need it to last for hours and hours but when it comes to cold weather burning, forget it. The stove is out in 5 hours with that stuff.
In the cold winter months I stick with red oak. Fill the stove and the house will be warm and there'll still be coals 12 hrs later. ::thumbsup::
Hey sw18, what part of Western NY....??? I'm in West Sparta (50 miles South of Rochester).
In the cold winter months I stick with red oak. Fill the stove and the house will be warm and there'll still be coals 12 hrs later. ::thumbsup::
Hey sw18, what part of Western NY....??? I'm in West Sparta (50 miles South of Rochester).
MacLaren
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How about sycamore Jay? After its seasoned a bit anyways.
I believe once it dries out a bit thats its not too bad.
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haveawoody
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WoodChuck'r,
Next time you get silver maple leave it on the chunky side when splitting.
If you would normally split something twice split silver maple just once.
It's pretty decent long burning wood that way, but split like other wood it's a dry fastish burning wood.
Next time you get silver maple leave it on the chunky side when splitting.
If you would normally split something twice split silver maple just once.
It's pretty decent long burning wood that way, but split like other wood it's a dry fastish burning wood.
Danxtro
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I have a kind of elm that bark look like the one on your picture. But i'm not sure if it's really rock elm. On the native range map it doesn't show presence in my area. Will take a picture this weekend if i have time.
Woodchuckr
We're in Hilton just west of Rochester, a little too close to the 'burbs for my liking but mostly farm country, so at least the neighbors aren't close enought to complain about the wood burner. West Sparta, isn't that grape country down there?
We're in Hilton just west of Rochester, a little too close to the 'burbs for my liking but mostly farm country, so at least the neighbors aren't close enought to complain about the wood burner. West Sparta, isn't that grape country down there?
