Oh and BTW...humans do eat hay...we eat the cows that eat the hay, same thing in my book.
“The human gluttony gene, bolstered by the very real images of starving Africans, pushes us to grow tons more food than the world economic system can absorb or deliver. Federal farm policy, out of fear of hunger and of the farm lobby, continues to encourage overproduction through subsidies and support programs. The significant irony is that the scientific term for the stuff that is killing the Gulf of Mexico is “nutrients”—fertilizer that feeds the growth of microorganisms in water, whose dead bodies poison the ocean downriver. And it is the overproduction of food, the staff of life, that actually threatens the life and health of our planet.” — George B. Pyle
You are quoting George B. Pyle??...SMH....really?
Toni Nagy: What Every Parent Should Know About Monsanto
Apparently she hasn't heard that half of agent orange was severlly restricted since 1970 and banned in the mid 80's and that's only because they overcooked the 2,4,5T.
God Damn, since rodent chunks contain peanuts, peanuts must be rat poison.
Yes, but only to an extent.
You do realize that a very small amount of the beef produced in the US is grass fed? Corn fed junk beef controls the market. And even if cattle are grass fed, but then grain finished, that just defeats the whole point.
100% grass fed bison for me.
There's a guy not far from me who has a good "grass fed beef" scam going on, I've seen the sprayers out in his hay fields on numerous occasions.
In my opinion, if a beef isn't penned up and finished out on grain for the last 30-45 days, it isn't fit to eat.
First, I have no fracking clue how spraying hayfields somehow makes grass fed a scam.
Second, some of the best beef I've eaten is grass fed, supplemented with silage in winter. Raised a mile as the crow flies from me. Herd has been managed for decades with a mix of Hereford & Charolais blood.
I just find the whole thing laughable, sorry some of you fail to see the humor.
On of the most inhumane things I've ever seen was an organic dairy. Cows that would normally be treated with antibiotics, and be healthy again in a few days are left in "sick pens" to suffer it out, some of them make it, some of them don't. Sometimes they are sold to other farmers where they can be properly medicated and nursed back to health.
Some of the same whacko's that are out preaching about animal rights, are the ones buying "organic milk". You probably fail to see the humor, or the irony there as well.
The whole "organic" fad is just a joke in my opinion. I've seen so many farmers who tried to go organic, either go tits up, or switch back to conventional methods after they find out it just isn't practical. I've seen 220 bushels/acre of conventional corn right across the lane, on the same farm as 17 bushels/acre of trashy organic corn
If all farmers went organic, the world would starve to death in short order.
I'm with you on that.
We tried to fill an order for organic tomatoes a few years back and the stink bugs destroyed 60-70% of the tomatoes that could have easily been saved with a dose of Malathion. But since no one wants to eat tomatoes with yellow stink bug punctures, we lost the contract and the money invested. Had consumers been willing to pay the premium for the loss we incurred, that would have been ok with us. No such luck.
Ordinary consumers have been so far removed from food production that its almost laughable when a "city-slicker" can't tell a bull from a cow at our place. We run a pick-your-own veg stand and it never ceases to amaze me on what people say sometimes.
I pointed a few people down to the row of onions the other day and they came back and said they couldn't find them. I went back over to the row and had to show them that the onions, being a root, are UNDER the ground. But they sure were adamant that I provide proof they were organically grown.
Yes sir they are... I added 3 loader buckets of cow manure right before planting them.
Cow manure??? You mean I put my hands in that and you expect people to eat something growing in cow manure???? I'm calling the health dept and having you shut down...
True story....
Speaking of lopes, now the FDA, and Dept. of Ag. are pushing for all the growers to start bleaching their lopes prior to sale. The equipment needed to do so costs around $40,000. That has stopped a lot of the local growers here. One of the guys I know, is a great farmer, he grew the best cantaloupes I've ever eaten, they were like candy. He said he just couldn't justify spending that kind of money to get set up, so he quit growing them all together. Now he just grows watermelons.
Now at first glance, this plan might seem like it is a good thing, and our government is trying to help insure food safety for all. But if you really read into it, you will see that it is the California growers who are pushing heavily for this. That is because they wish to dominate the market, and push out all of the little local growers. Same reason they flooded the east coast with low cost Strawberries for several years, that was to drive the market down so low, that the farmers around here couldn't afford to grow them. So they took out their berry patches, and went on to other crops. Now, that they have the market tied up, they just keep pushing up the prices again.
So while some of these food safety laws may appear to be for the good of the people, you can bet your ass if you research it a little, it all comes down to dollar signs.
Monsanto's litagation practices are where the rub is, not particularly their products although they are quite pricy by some standards.They have a habit of suing a small farmer due to cross pollination (due to mother nature's fickle winds). This bullying using the courts systems is where most of the objections arise.
I got sued by another co many years back, they said I copied there product. Hell I didn't even know they had that particular item. For that matter that they even existed. As we had been making our own for 60 years and selling it. ( real big business here maybe 50 pieces a year at $7.00 per each) LSS just stopped offering it not worth a court case, even though my Co. is twice the age of theirs, so who copied who. ( my co. started in 1932) Point is cost of litigation just to prove who is right is beyond the ability of many small operations. This is what Monsanto banks on in there effort to control the world seed supply. A single supplier is not a good thing in any area. I have yet to see the Govt. clamp down on their practices even though the govt has done so in the past in similar conditions in other markets.
tell me something, the guy "bought the seed from the mill" , how did this not pay whatever? ( that where we got ours, at the co-op feed, seed ,mill)
Is it required to by a seperate lic. from the orginial seed producer now days to plant them?
Do not remember any thing like that back on the farm 25 years ago.
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