ricing out a 440?

[jd548esco]

i recently got a locked up 440 , it looks to have been sitting for a few years--

it is mostly intact.

i've been thinking of 'ricing" it out with one of those flea-bay aftermarket/china -crank/piston/jug kits.

now i have plenty of good saws so this is more of just an experiment with the AM parts--


maybe i can find someone on here that could do a short block for me as i'm lacking the tooling for a case split--?

thanks--

 

[whitedogone]

hultz

 

[MustangMike]

Most of the AM kits need to be altered to get respectable performance. Quality is often not consistent, compression too low, etc.

Some will run well if U do the proper work to them.

 

[z71mike]

Only AM I would waste my time with would be a high end kit from Randy.

 

[lone wolf]

i recently got a locked up 440 , it looks to have been sitting for a few years--

it is mostly intact.

i've been thinking of 'ricing" it out with one of those flea-bay aftermarket/china -crank/piston/jug kits.

now i have plenty of good saws so this is more of just an experiment with the AM parts--


maybe i can find someone on here that could do a short block for me as i'm lacking the tooling for a case split--?

thanks--

Nah!

 

[NewToStihl]

I have a brand new in the box NWP big bore kit from Bailey's that I bought for a 440 a year or two ago and never used. It bumps a 440 up to the displacement (and theoretically power) of a 460 without any modifications - just a bolt on kit.

If your wanting to experiment with AM I'd be happy to sell you this one. PM me if interested.

 

[tacomatrd98]

I have a brand new in the box NWP big bore kit from Bailey's that I bought for a 440 a year or two ago and never used. It bumps a 440 up to the displacement (and theoretically power) of a 460 without any modifications - just a bolt on kit.

If your wanting to experiment with AM I'd be happy to sell you this one. PM me if interested.

That kit in particular is one of the few AM kits I have had success with. I put one on an 044 awhile back and it was a running sob. Head to head against a 576XP AT in 20" hickory and it handily outcut it.I did no port clean up at all, used the gasket and bolted her on. It was a super clean casting and really nice bevels etc. Problem is no two are the same.

 

[MustangMike]

Did U also use the piston and rings that came with the kit?

 

[nmurph]

Go ahead if you have spare time and money. For my efforts and expense, I'm going to find a used OEM cylinder and buy a Meteor piston.

 

[Gypo Logger]

Ricing out your 044 eh? Don't tell me their making Stihl parts in Japan now!

 

[z71mike]

Ricing out your 044 eh? Don't tell me their making Stihl parts in Japan now!

Zama

 

[Gypo Logger]

Oh good then! We're all safe. Could be worse if it was Bing. Lol

 

[pioneerguy600]

Ricing out your 044 eh? Don't tell me their making Stihl parts in Japan now!

China!

 

[Gypo Logger]

China!

K. I'll crawl back in to my culvert. Lol.

 

[Gypo Logger]

That's where the Big Bucks always hide during gun season.

A miner friend of mine found 2 old guns dating back to 1898 near the Dawson gold fields. I'll get some pics.

 

[jd548esco]

i ain't hurting for saws

i have a 044 and another 440 with a OEM 460 jug , a 372XP , a 575 shindaiwa, a 029 super and a brand spanking new 590 timberwolf .

kida looking at a 620P -- might just tune up the 590--

this is more of a 'play pretty" i just want to see if the AM stuff is good or not and maybe cut a little firewood-- a few hundred 6300lb chords in the process--

i think i'll PM NTS about that jug--

and i ain't new , to saws -- grew up logging .

can't recall a USA made stihl ?? --- ain't some of their cheaper "micky mouse-saws" china anyway??

 

[z71mike]

can't recall a USA made stihl ??

026/ms260

 

[pioneerguy600]

Stihl has a plant in Virginia Beach USA.,

http://www.stihlusa.com/information/corporate/about-us/stihl-history/corporate-timeline/

 

[pioneerguy600]

A miner friend of mine found 2 old guns dating back to 1898 near the Dawson gold fields. I'll get some pics.

When I was up there a few years ago retracing some of my relatives travels there was a lot of stuff still being found from the rushers, the trail from Skagway over the White Pass and the one from Dyea over the Chilcoot Pass was littered with tons of cast off supplies. There was still fellows bringing in field , finds every season.

Just thought I would add, I still remember firing my great uncles 1896 in 45-70 and I have a stamped steel frying pan he took to Dawson and brought back home with him.

 

[MustangMike]

Pioneer, do U mean 1886 Winchester??? (AKA 86). My Uncle had an 86 in 50-110 (very rare).

Also, all the Stihl saws that have a SN starting with 2 instead of 1 are made in the USA (like my 362 C-M).