Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Philbert]

Are they gonna run 2-3 days without access to a charger?

How much fuel do you carry? What’s it weigh?

Just something to consider. I have taken battery saws on disaster responses, with multiple batteries. They were not running all the time. Lots of convenience factors (starting, noise, no flammable fuel, etc. ).

Would have to check into solar recharge options; this stuff is constantly changing.

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

I'd just like to know why is a top handle so sought after, and why the hate of the ms180?

Top handle is more compact, and slightly lighter: important considerations for this application.

MS180 is viewed as STIHL’s ‘low end, homeowner’ saw. Although, I know one tech who recommends them as ‘disposable’ saws, in a good way: less of an issue when damaged/destroyed/list/stolen/etc. than a MS261, for example!

Philbert

 

[svk]

In no way am I saying you are doing it wrong, but please help me understand why you want a top handle? To me a small, zippy rear handle would shine for this work.

 

[Jasent]

Sounds like you need a super 2. Top handle or rear handle when you need it.

 

[svk]

Super 2 is the powerhouse of that chassis too. IIRC, XL-2 is 26cc, XL is 30cc, and Super 2 is 34cc

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

getting pretty cold down here... 39f now, freezing rains in Austin and a nasty bad hiway crash up in Dallas... many cars, real bad! going to get colder and worse as temps drop. bit concerned about my garden...

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

 

[sean donato]

Top handle is more compact, and slightly lighter: important considerations for this application.

MS180 is viewed as STIHL’s ‘low end, homeowner’ saw. Although, I know one tech who recommends them as ‘disposable’ saws, in a good way: less of an issue when damaged/destroyed/list/stolen/etc. than a MS261, for example!

Philbert

The top handle stays at home unless I'm climbing. Slightly lighter, I cant comment on that as I no longer have access to the ms180, but can tell you if your going to lump a ms 193t as a pro saw then the ms 180 is at the same level of "pro". The compactness is a moot.point in my mind, it's not that much more compact. And much less controllable. Idk seems hes asking for a lot, but wanting to keep just what he has.

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

my scrounges have been ample and frequent. even get some wood often enough. always rains oak where i live. never ends, and is constant. other day, heard a loud thundering crash as i was reading some posts on the AS! omg, what was that? QB looked out - a limb? yes... ours? no... across the street. omg, an oak tree had come down over at neighbor's... 100' or so from my curb's edge... would have been a widow maker, busted out chunk of concrete in driveway...

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

they had a guy with a saw... come in and he cut it up and curbed it. trunk, too. was fast, doubt more than 35 mins and he was gone... so i went over... ck'd it out. see if wood... would... make a good scrounge? soon i knew... is free a deal? lol lots of wood there, better than a cord is my guess... and a lot just about in ready to use condition... imo, an ultimate carry-in scrounge...

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

took about hr n 15 mins or so to haul it all in...

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

then cut it up yesterday afternoon. 8/9 piles. going to just let it lay... till freeze temps blow by... ez gather for the fireplace. fireplace weather is here now... then will clean up and stack. split the chunks...



no wood, no fire! (other nite)

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

my scrounges have been ample and frequent.

stopped by a rancher pal's place other day. had a bunch of pecans lying about below a med sized pecan tree. hmm, i thought... and cracked one. most been there for a bit of a spell. so l tasted it. nice! still sweet and tasty! so gathered up a bag. cracked them all, cleaned and dried. now ready for some homemade pecan pie with scrounged pecans...



intended use:

 

[Jasent]

Super 2 is the powerhouse of that chassis too. IIRC, XL-2 is 26cc, XL is 30cc, and Super 2 is 34cc

This one I ported as well. Was still running her quite fat as she was only hitting 9k in the top. Slowly cleaning her up as it breaks in. 12700 now and still 4 stroking heavy.

We are at 15* f here today and 25 mph winds gusting to 40

 

[mountainguyed67]

I'd just like to know why is a top handle so sought after, and why the hate of the ms180? We ran them as truck saws at the township. They were always very reliable, had decent power and were very light. Arguably they took more abuse then the bigger pro models we had, and if im.not mistaken has the same engine construction as a ms 193.

Im not aware of any hate for the 180, I’m just trying to find one best suited for trail work. I’m not familiar with the 180. Without knowing the saw all I have to go on is if it’s a pro saw or not, until someone like you chimes in. I appreciate your input. Top handle doesn’t take as much room in a backpack, nothing sticking back. This helps answer your questions too “We ran them as truck saws at the township”. Weight and bulk isn’t much of an issue on a truck.

 

[mountainguyed67]

When our Boy Scouts did trail work in NM the Park Service held them to a much higher standard than that guy was using

He seems to be thinning a plantation, to harvest lumber in a few decades.

 

[mountainguyed67]

You can put a 16" bar on it

Is this limited by recommendations, or by compatibility? The XL specs say 16” max, but mine has an 18” on it. It was that way when I got it.

 

[sean donato]

Im not aware of any hate for the 180, I’m just trying to find one best suited for trail work. I’m not familiar with the 180. Without knowing the saw all I have to go on is if it’s a pro saw or not, until someone like you chimes in. I appreciate your input. Top handle doesn’t take as much room in a backpack, nothing sticking back. This helps answer your questions too “We ran them as truck saws at the township”. Weight and bulk isn’t much of an issue on a truck.

Yes, that can explain the top handle position. Which is understandable. The ms180 is more or less the rear handle version of the 193t. No the truck doesnt care how much it weighs but it is very light, and I found them to very robust for how hard they were used,and little maintenance they required. Using them all day was never tiring, amd they could take 16" well, although slowly. I cant say that for the ms192tc I have. It has its hands full with a 14" bar.

 

[mountainguyed67]

Heaven???

FYI you keep going upstream and you’re in Kings Canyon National Park.