Dad wasn't the average employer. He bent over backwards to help his guys. He wouldn't let anybody take a truck. But if you were a top man, that had been with us a few years, he'd let you take a whole crew out on a Saturday and do your side job under our license and insurance. You just had to bring all the equipment back ready for work on Monday morning, trucks empty, saws sharp. If he was off the job site and a neighbor grabbed the crew leader and asked for a price on something, he'd call Dad. "Hey boss, the neighbor wants their chimney cleared, told them $200 while we are here, can get it done in an hour." Dad might tell him if they wanted to work through lunch, do it. Keep $100 for the crew leader, give his rope man $50, and $25 for the two groundies. Then get on the next job ASAP. Or, he may say tell the customer we'll do it for that price next time in the neighborhood, we have to get this next job today. For his system to work, everyone had to be honest. The first time a crew leader tried to do a side job while on the clock, keep the money and not tell him, the whole system went down the drain. I guess his insurance policy was I usually went with them and ran the ropes, so it wasn't quite as naive as it sounds. But he took care of his guys and expected them to take care of him, and they usually did, Joe.