Joe I'll be at my Stihl shop Tuesday .pretty sure he has .404 hanging on the wall. Always does buy 2 get 1 free. He's not to far from Clarence I think. In Shippensburg.I haven’t found any thing I like better than Stihl RS, it cuts fast bucking, cuts smooth milling, keep it out of the dirt, and it lasts a long time. My biggest complaint was cost, then I found a local dealer that has a buy one get one free deal. I tend to run saws that are big for the job at hand, so pulling the chain is never an issue. My other problem is the dealer quit cutting chain, he only sells what comes in the box, and no 404. So I may try some Oregon on my 45” bar.