Sunrise Guy
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Could you post some of the things that are in your contracts so that some of us could steel some of you idea's
No way. There are liability issues involved with doing that so------
Could you post some of the things that are in your contracts so that some of us could steel some of you idea's
In N.Y that signed proposal does not mean squat if no work was performed. I have custom proposals with our buisness name and terms and conditions but even if the home owner agrees to the contract and signs it they are not obligated to honor the contract untill you start the job. Then the contract is legally binding and will hold up in a N.Y. court. Always put things in wrighting and try to get signed contracts it protects you and the home owner from descrepency's.
Hmmm---So cancellation clauses are outlawed in NY? Maybe I'm not understanding things.
Call them up and say you finished and that you are now sending out the bill, ask if they have any questions.
It happens a good bit but once when it happened to me I sent the dumb ##### a bill and she paid me, dumb #####.
But sometimes if I show up and the job was done by someone else I ring the doorbell, if no one answers I go in and rob them, at least I take the patio furniture. Why bother with a court case? Do you know what a good patio umbrella goes for? Something like 400, that should cover your loss fairly I think.
Cancellation clauses are a seperate issue that I am not familar with. If a customer has a change of heart and decides to cancel a job before I start then thats there perogitive and I just let it go. I was referring to a customer for instance signing a contract and then hiring another company to do the work. You are SOL.. Even if you have a signed contract unless you previously started the job and that does not include showing up for a free estimate.
Cancellation clauses are a seperate issue that I am not familar with. If a customer has a change of heart and decides to cancel a job before I start then thats there perogitive and I just let it go. I was referring to a customer for instance signing a contract and then hiring another company to do the work. You are SOL.. Even if you have a signed contract unless you previously started the job and that does not include showing up for a free estimate.
If i go out and look at a job, they agree to the price and details, and i get a written agreement on my proposal, that (usually) binds me to the job. Here's why- after the proposal is signed i drive to get supplies(ie, saw chain, bar oil, fuel up the truck,etc.) paying for things for the customer to get the job done as agreed, go home prep all gear, load gear,etc. then next morning go to the job. Hopefully not but, if they were to say "well we changed our minds and we're gonna wait"(only had it happen once, but be prepared) i in return quickly change their minds when i say "well, yesterday when you signed the contract, and i left and spent my time and fuel gathering up the necessary items for the proper completion of your agreed work and now here i am spent my time and fuel and show up on time to do the work", "well mam/sir heres a bill for my time and fuel thus far, that's as fair as i can be because we had a written agreement"! They say, well go ahead or just write you a check for the prep! and that's the way it should be. For God's sake guys do you think for one minute that a cutomer has an idea of your overhead and stuff when you go out and price a say 3 or 400.00 tree?opcorn:
I wouldn"t take em to court either on just dropping the proposed work, but when you nicely and professionally show them that hey i've been seriously inconvenienced they tend reconcile with you. Times like these a good business owner makes every dime count or you do the titanic ya know!Ok, I agree that you should be compensated if you were inconvienced by some one canceling a contract. But you have to look at it like this. #1. I threaten them for payment if they cancel the job, So in turn they say ok do the job at this point I do not want to be there, they do not want me there, and no matter how proffesional the job was done they will not be happy and will ##### to every other person that brings up tree work to them in the future about YOU. #2 they say ok heres a hundred dollers for the inconvients You again get a bad refferal because they feel like your are screwing them. Theres is plenty of work out there if the guy in the pick-up with a saw steals a job from you, just move on to the next one those fly by nighter's come and go but a professional buisness with good referals will have work for many years to come. I hate the sue happy society we have become and would not waiste my time taking some one to court over a cancelled contract, Thats just not the way I do buisness. To each there own though!!!
Was not even in my thoughts of taking the guy to court but did thinkOk, I agree that you should be compensated if you were inconvienced by some one canceling a contract. But you have to look at it like this. #1. I threaten them for payment if they cancel the job, So in turn they say ok do the job at this point I do not want to be there, they do not want me there, and no matter how proffesional the job was done they will not be happy and will ##### to every other person that brings up tree work to them in the future about YOU. #2 they say ok heres a hundred dollers for the inconvients You again get a bad refferal because they feel like your are screwing them. Theres is plenty of work out there if the guy in the pick-up with a saw steals a job from you, just move on to the next one those fly by nighter's come and go but a professional buisness with good referals will have work for many years to come. I hate the sue happy society we have become and would not waiste my time taking some one to court over a cancelled contract, Thats just not the way I do buisness. To each there own though!!!
Was not even in my thoughts of taking the guy to court but did think
of feeding a knuckle sandwich to him!
been there done that, it cost me alot more then it was worth, Well, Maybe!!
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