thank you for your feedback one and all.I did ck out the 361 at the show,seemed plenty big to me??I threatened to go to the timberwolf plant at lunch break buying beer etc towards getting a better deal,no go.The bilt rite founder had sold out to brave who sold the design to timberwolf before he started the bilt rite design.??You know the saying no b#### no glory.If I owned a huskey I would out of envy,probably advise the same.I would rather think big enough ,then find myself kicking my own rear end for buying somthing with problems right from the start.durability, cycle time etc are not an option if Im doing this full time.The log lift would be a must have ,with this thought process.I plan on using it year round,doing maybe 100 cords / 300 face cords the first yr.Last yr without complaint I hand split 10 cords by hand in a couple days,easy splitting,dry ash.If I end up competing with huskey owners I will need professional equipment to make the grade.A prossesor would be great if I had a tractor to load logs etc and more money but I don't.Used equipment or spending 30 to 60 000 $ isn't going to cut it.I spent most of my time at the show talking to timberwolf owners,they supported my dream of making $100 plus a day with that equipment.Its a toss up between timberwolf and bilt rite price not being the issue.I live in the north country plenty of wood up here.After 10 or so years Ill have help and my commercial splitter will still not be obsolete.Anyone want to compare bilt rite with timberwolf Im all ears.