I live in Northeastern PA, and I've been researching this for about a month and after looking at Taylor, Crown Royal, Hawkins, Central Boiler, Mahoning, I just ordered a Shaver 165. I felt good about the decision based on their fair price, and design...thickness of steel, round firebox, grates, ashpan, blower underneath fire, etc. However, last night I read a post from someone who said he saw the shaver in person and they looked poorly made. This is a big decision for us and I don't want to make a mistake! Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated especially any input from people who own a Shaver. Thank you!!!