doobie57z
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pests my foot,,and half a cord???? muwahahhahhahahhahahha ..got that right......blind leading blind.......
doobie57z
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Her number is there, I'm gonna call her ...
zogger
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high temp storage
Although just a bit off in her math there (wonder what her salary and bennies are) she makes a point. I mean, everyone knows 4 foot by 4 foot by sixteen inches in a lumberjack standing ranked and ricked about face cord......
So, I wonder how high of a temperature you would have to get the drying wood to, in order to kill all the insects and diseases etc., in it?
Perhaps in the future we all might be using backyard solar kilns for this purpose, plus, it would speed up seasoning. I am thinking solar heat, the wood stack under some plastic/greenhouse looking thing, to get the heat up, plus some solar PV to run a small fan for air circulation/evacuation.
Paper doesn't kindle until the famous 451 F, so anything under that, say 300 degrees, might work. Even if only for a few hours a day at mid sun....hmmm
Although just a bit off in her math there (wonder what her salary and bennies are) she makes a point. I mean, everyone knows 4 foot by 4 foot by sixteen inches in a lumberjack standing ranked and ricked about face cord......
So, I wonder how high of a temperature you would have to get the drying wood to, in order to kill all the insects and diseases etc., in it?
Perhaps in the future we all might be using backyard solar kilns for this purpose, plus, it would speed up seasoning. I am thinking solar heat, the wood stack under some plastic/greenhouse looking thing, to get the heat up, plus some solar PV to run a small fan for air circulation/evacuation.
Paper doesn't kindle until the famous 451 F, so anything under that, say 300 degrees, might work. Even if only for a few hours a day at mid sun....hmmm
I can't find a bit of logic in that article, and the cord part is icing on the cake...
J.W Younger
ass kissing impaired
I don't know much about face cords but at 16" you would need a stack 8' long and 4' high for 1/3 cord.
I only sell to people who come get it and if they have a half ton pickup I tell em to figure on 3 loads.
Most don't listen.
I only sell to people who come get it and if they have a half ton pickup I tell em to figure on 3 loads.
Most don't listen.
goosegunner
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I live in Wisconsin, I think I will start a firewood business soon. Hopefully she could be my first customer. 
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cuttingintime
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Is it any wounder the government is broke.
Nosmo
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A Rick
I'm not saying this is the correct term but in my part of the country firewood is sold by the Rick. (I don't either buy or sell firewood) I cut my own.
A Rick's measurement would be 1/3 of a cord - 4" x 8" x 16" wide. As for meeting a nice lady that would be OK no matter what she thinks the term or measurements of a stack of wood should be.
Nosmo
I'm not saying this is the correct term but in my part of the country firewood is sold by the Rick. (I don't either buy or sell firewood) I cut my own.
A Rick's measurement would be 1/3 of a cord - 4" x 8" x 16" wide. As for meeting a nice lady that would be OK no matter what she thinks the term or measurements of a stack of wood should be.
Nosmo
As far a temperature and sustained exposure to same, check with the specs for pallets as they have to be heat treated for most cross state line or international shipping.
Yep got some real winner appointees working in the DNR here in Wisconsin. Likely paying her 50-80K plus bennies for her lack of expertise.
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deerlakejens
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While she made an error a large percentage of the posters on this site make, she has also been the coordinator of the gypsy moth control effort since the '90's in WI, which has been quite successful. She also has a very good point about the transportation of firewood being an effective vector in the spread of certain invasive pests in a state where the timber and paper industry is very important. I certainly hope none of her critics here have ever made such a gross mistake. If everyone had their split firewood off the ground under a roof so it actually seasoned, it might be fine but the majority still stack it uncovered on the ground, or worse yet, under a tarp, which creates the perfect rearing environment for lots of wood damaging insects.
deerlakejens
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Last rant about the WI DNR criticism is all the talk about how they don't know what they are doing in establishing hunting seasons, etc. We hunt the Tomahawk area and have since the 60's. While the deer population fluctuates as it always has, our group has had more success in the past few years than ten years ago and my only complaint is the "baiting" some of our neighbors do. Putting out all that high nutrition corn lets the deer feed for a short time at night and lay low all day long, disrupting the natural feeding pattern that makes still hunting effective. Thanks to the DNR actions, we have also taken turkeys (which didn't exist) and a bear (which were much rarer), see tons of sandhill cranes which were also rare and look forward to the not too distant future when we will have a chance to take a wolf and an elk. Our fishing has rebounded significantly since the customized size and bag limits have been instituted. I don't agree with everything they do but applaud the overall result they have contributed. There, I feel better!
doobie57z
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So glad you are enjoying the harvest of our natural resources down there in Tomahawk. The satisfaction of the tourists is job one, we'd hate to see them go somewhere else. Or come up here to the big woods.
deerlakejens
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Actually, we've been in the Harrison area since the 40's, involved in dairy farming and wood production, so I really don't consider myself a tourist. After college, I had a job traveling WI north of Hwy. 64, the UP and the Iron Range of MN and really don't recall seeing any "bigger" woods. What area are you talking about? If you really want to see some big woods, take a trip out to the Pacific NW.
Biker Dude
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Possibly big woods as in "Little House in the Big Woods"? It's a book written by someone who probably never say the PNW.
As for dumb DNR policy, here's one way we are combating the
Emerald Ash Borer.
As for dumb DNR policy, here's one way we are combating the
Emerald Ash Borer.
doobie57z
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Iron County, Wisconsin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As far as I know, there is still not a single traffic light in Iron county.
Wife'nHubby
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I think there is a play on words here when referring to "the big woods" in Wisconsin. The term is not referring to large trees rather the term is referring to 1,000's of acres of trees.
Living in SE WI we also refer to 'up north' as "The Big Woods".
Shari
Living in SE WI we also refer to 'up north' as "The Big Woods".
Shari
I thought it was called Up Nort. No H. I was in exile about as Up Nort as you could get for a couple of years in your fair state. Our town had the biggest Lombardy Poplar, but it died. The pine was planted in rows, which was a hard concept for a native PNWer to understand. The pine didn't get too tall, the Up Nort soil was pretty sandy.
By the way, the press often makes errors when quoting people, or the Public Affairs person may have written the blurb, and they generally have no knowledge at all about forestry.
Also, it seemed like the ash borer was getting closer to Wisconsin, and there were already problems with oak wilt and I can't think of the name, but a little beetle that bored into oaks making a D shaped exit hole. It was like the oaks were doomed.
By the way, the press often makes errors when quoting people, or the Public Affairs person may have written the blurb, and they generally have no knowledge at all about forestry.
Also, it seemed like the ash borer was getting closer to Wisconsin, and there were already problems with oak wilt and I can't think of the name, but a little beetle that bored into oaks making a D shaped exit hole. It was like the oaks were doomed.
