Wood burning fireplace inserts?

[FullCry]

Thank you both for the advice, as well as, everybody else. FullCry

 

[Cerran]

A properly installed wood insert should not produce any smoke smell in the house except for rare times when you have low draft like a partially plugged chimney.

I've been burning 6+ years now with my current insert and rarely get a smoke smell in the house.

 

[PARAL]

Anyway, is SS six inch pipe just stove pipe or stainless pipe?

It sounds like you are going to be running SS pipe through the chimney. You can do it with Rigid pipe or Flexible pipe or a combination of the two. Yes it is a stove pipe in the sense it is made specifically for this situation. See my link in my previous post for some pics of a Flex pipe.

When you make the pattern for the flue with pipe hole for the heater then how do you attach the flue plate?

The block-off plate on the bottom would generally go right where the damper of the old fireplace was. You need to break out the old damper mechanism though. I did mine by having 1" tabs on the edge of the plate that were slightly bent. As I pushed the plate up the tabs bent farther down and held it. I first put high temp caulk around the edge, slid the flex pipe through and set it in place. I secured it with a few tapcon screws.

The top of my chimney is bricked up and has a chunk of concrete over it and it never rains down the chimney,so would i mount the flange up there inside this area or bust it off and mount the plate on a level surface?

For the top you basically want a solid SS surface which fully covers the hole and attaches to the pipe coming up. It needs to be strong enough to support the weight of the pipe hanging from it. Again see the link in my last post.

Stay safe with all those snakes. A friend of a friend got bit by a pit viper in Cambodia and the little girl was hanging onto her life. Thank the LORD she is well and that we have health care that is more accessible.

 

[logbutcher]

Phil (aka Paral) has it down. SS rigid pipe well connected by SS screws is the best solution IF the flue is straight. If not use the flex pipe liner system. For the straight flue you can set the full SS pipe up then with help drop the whole length down the chimney. The smooth pipe is easier to clean. Check out Phil's solutionb on hearthnet and the MetalBestos systems for connectors and pipe.
The flue lining and fireplace block-offs toether can cost as much as a good wood stove, but as important to good draft and safety.

Now for snakes: my wife is from Ireland. NO snakes there due to St Patrick. She jumps at even our occasional harmless garden snakes. Snakes do not like SS chimneys BTW.
Now for the question of the day : why does everyone say that cooked snakes taste like chicken ? More like ______.

 

[FullCry]

I'm understanding this fairly well and have seen stove pipe used. My fireplace never had a dampner that I can tell. They say Rattlesnake taste like chicken but to me it taste like Rattlesnake. If you ask someone what snake taste like chicken has been said so much that is what they say or it's the closest thing they can think of that it taste like. FullCry

 

[FullCry]

Photo's

This fire place doesn't have a damper or it has already been removed....<a href="http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/FullCry_2006/?action=view&current=DSCN0026.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/FullCry_2006/DSCN0026.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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[FullCry]

Photo's again

This old house is double brick and was built in the 1930's. The chimney seems to be about thirty feet tall but I haven't measured it. The house is real tall though the photos may not show it. I dread getting up there.
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Thanks for the help and more will be appreciated.

 

[logbutcher]

That's some quality masonry in that brick ! Nice place ( in spite of the reptiles )
With that tall chimney and the right liner, the flue may just suck the stove up to the roof.
That kind of chimney needs good staffolding to do the job. Not a big deal, but if you're uncomfortable at heights, get a pro.

 

[A. Stanton]

Full,
Your chimney looks a lot like mine. Here's how I clean mine.

 

[WetBehindtheEar]

That's some quality masonry in that brick ! Nice place ( in spite of the reptiles )
With that tall chimney and the right liner, the flue may just suck the stove up to the roof.
That kind of chimney needs good staffolding to do the job. Not a big deal, but if you're uncomfortable at heights, get a pro.

:agree2:

Our chimney is a lot like that also - sticks WAY above the ridge line - too hard for me to get scaffolding, tie-offs, etc. to do it safely so I had to hire a guy... cost me $2k for two flues one 30' and one 40' (first floor & basement)

A little pricey but I just was unable to get it done myself. (LOSER!)

 

[FullCry]

Thanks for the comments and compliments. Is the liner the pipe that goes up the chimney? I can get on the house but to get to that peak behind the chimney I have to wear tennis shoes and actually run up the roof to get to the peak. I was thinking about taking my extension ladder and putting it on the backside of the chimney and getting my son to stand on the bottom step of the ladder and doing it like that. What is y'alls opinion on that?
Butcher I heard and have seen on TV those moose are in town and attack people when they are rutting. I will deal with the snakes and hogs.
I have also read that more people are hurt by white tail deer every year than bears and lions put together. They will attack when in rut to plus car accidents.Thanks again, FullCry

 

[logbutcher]

Thanks for the comments and compliments. Is the liner the pipe that goes up the chimney? I can get on the house but to get to that peak behind the chimney I have to wear tennis shoes and actually run up the roof to get to the peak. I was thinking about taking my extension ladder and putting it on the backside of the chimney and getting my son to stand on the bottom step of the ladder and doing it like that. What is y'alls opinion on that?
Butcher I heard and have seen on TV those moose are in town and attack people when they are rutting. I will deal with the snakes and hogs.
I have also read that more people are hurt by white tail deer every year than bears and lions put together. They will attack when in rut to plus car accidents.Thanks again, FullCry

The pipe is the liner to correctly match the flue size to the stove. Most stoves now spec at 6" flue.
From my past stupidity: use the right scaffolding to do serious work on a chimney like yours. They can be rented and will save you a lot of effort --and your ass ( Calling Mr. Moderator ? ). On steep pitches you need protection like we use rock climbing. Use carpet padding for easier walking on shingled roofs.

Moose have poor eyesight, rarely attack anything but another male or the right cow. Moose car collisions are deadly since the body of most moose is close to 6' up. Hit one with your car OR pickup, the body goes thru the windshield. It's not pretty hitting an 800+ lb animal. Unlike deer, moose are all dark, barely visible at night. And they can move over 30 mph, and easily jump guardrails. Deer just bang up the car then you get venison.
Ask some of the Downeasters here if they've been attacked by moose or deer. Never heard of it ....yet.
Now turkeys on the other hand......

 

[FullCry]

Thanks for the carpet padding tip Log Butcher. I guess i'll take you fellas advice on the scafolding to be on the safe side. FullCry