What makes a Pro saw a Pro saw?

[spacemule]

A pro saw consists of three distinguishing factors:

1. an offensively high price tag
2. a special sticker or handle
3. a blind cult following.

Well, that works unless you're talking about Stihl.

 

[mcinfantry]

biggest thing i see in a pro is weight. or lack of it.

on the back of a motorcycle, i find that important.

 

[Nailgunner]

As I understood it a professional saw would have high power to weight ratio, be designed for easy and regular dismantling and servicing, have a strong emphasis on safety and anti-HAVS features for operator protection, start every single time with no :monkey: ing about, be suited to a high duty cycle, have spares and service parts available easily and be capable of being maintained and used almost indefinitely notwithstanding serious abuse or destruction. Do you concur?

 

[heimannm]

more fodder...

One Stihl dealer tells us the difference is 1,100 hours before rebuild for non-pro, 2,100 hours before rebuild pro saw.

Mark

 

[rmh3481]

Im surprised that none of you guys mentioned an adjustable carb as being a requirement for a pro saw?

pgg; Echo engines are ok. They last as long or longer than alot of other brands and arent that far down on power especially when compared to their fuel efficiency.

Bob

 

[Poley4]

Im surprised that none of you guys mentioned an adjustable carb as being a requirement for a pro saw?

pgg; Echo engines are ok. They last as long or longer than alot of other brands and arent that far down on power especially when compared to their fuel efficiency.

Bob

There have been a few saws that I would consider to be Pro saws, that didn't have an adjustable carb. One that comes to mind is the Stihl 026 Pro, but trust me, I don't think that was Stihl's idea. I'm sure there are others that the EPA mandated fixed jet cars.

 

[cjk]

One Stihl dealer tells us the difference is 1,100 hours before rebuild for non-pro, 2,100 hours before rebuild pro saw.

Mark

Can anyone confirm these numbers?

For a 2 stroke, they seem awfully high. Ive seen some design life numbers on 4 stroke engines that arent that high.

I know stihl is good but damn................

 

[Marc]

Pro saws get paid, while other saws just cut as a hobby or "for fun." Their real job is holding down the storage shelving in the garage.

Also, pro saws aren't allowed compete in the Olympics.

 

[pgg]

Im surprised that none of you guys mentioned an adjustable carb as being a requirement for a pro saw?

pgg; Echo engines are ok. They last as long or longer than alot of other brands and arent that far down on power especially when compared to their fuel efficiency.

Bob

True enough(in some instances) but just the fact that echos are down on power says it all. Just not good enough to be labelled a pro-saw. Outta their league up against xp huskys and stihls. I've used all sorts of cheapo dungers as work saws too, engine reliability isn't the problem, it's effortless power and cutting speed that's the difference, pro-saws stomp all over the cheapos in that regard, there's bugger all difference between a lower grade stihl and a 'pro-grade' echo bar the fact that all echos I've ever used have all felt coarse and lacking any sort of X factor, and stihl are honest enough to rate their lower grade saws as 'non-pro'. Really, a so called 'pro-saw' with poor middling to mediocre performance is bad news when trying to make a living with the damn thing

 

[scotclayshooter]

Can anyone confirm these numbers?

For a 2 stroke, they seem awfully high. Ive seen some design life numbers on 4 stroke engines that arent that high.

I know stihl is good but damn................

A working year is around 2000 hours
I have a Stihl FS250 strimmer that must be around the 2000 hour mark as its 4 seasons old it still has 130psi compression and was muffler modded 2 seasons ago

 

[pgg]

Here's an example of the stuff clogging the market at the moment, check out the blurb, a 'PROFESSIONAL' 52cc chainsaw with, wow, look! a 'USA' chain! Probably perfectly OK as a homeowner/ casual firewood saw though. Notice the evasive description, no mention of brand name, no mention of 'Made in China' Check out the claim, 52cc and 3.5 HP, then check out the fine print - 2.2KW rated. Funny how 3 HP magically becomes 3.5 HP huh. Actually they're still being more honest than dodgy echo who conveniently won't even give out power ratings.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-farming-industry/Farming/Forestry/auction-184481437.htm

 

[FATGUY]

One piece crank and a chrome plated piston? Interesting.

I respectfully disagree with the bearings comment. The only thing better than roller needle bearings is 2 pairs of angular contact bearings, Haven't seen a saw with those yet. With all due respect, just a machinist/pseudo designers opinion

 

[Poley4]

I respectfully disagree with the bearings comment. The only thing better than roller needle bearings is 2 pairs of angular contact bearings, Haven't seen a saw with those yet. With all due respect, just a machinist/pseudo designers opinion

I wasn't aware that I made a comment about bearings.:monkey:

 

[FATGUY]

I wasn't aware that I made a comment about bearings.:monkey:

oops, in a drunken stuper I clicked on the wrong post, I meant to click on the one before yours. sorry

 

[slowp]

Pro saws get paid, while other saws just cut as a hobby or "for fun." Their real job is holding down the storage shelving in the garage.

Also, pro saws aren't allowed compete in the Olympics.

If you want to have a beer, while watching a pro saw work, you'll be charged $7.00 for a Bud Light. You can't bring a cooler along when a pro saw is going to cut.

 

[litefoot]

Pro saws get paid, while other saws just cut as a hobby or "for fun." Their real job is holding down the storage shelving in the garage.

Also, pro saws aren't allowed compete in the Olympics.

If you want to have a beer, while watching a pro saw work, you'll be charged $7.00 for a Bud Light. You can't bring a cooler along when a pro saw is going to cut.

 

[Nailgunner]

people bother repairing Pro saws because they're worth doing.

Adjustable carbs - All UK market ones I've seen have adjustable carbs, I'm not aware of any emmissions requirements for small 2-strokes in this country. Enjoy your EPA lark, it sounds like more fun than being tied into a sack with a mad dog and thrown in a lake. But only just.

 

[mantis]

A true pro saw will have the name Husqvarna some place on it:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[echoman8]

Thanks

THANKS,

This is one of the best threads in a long time. There are so many that are saying the same thing in so many different ways that you think they are arguing.

GREAT THREAD

echoman

 

[Poley4]

oops, in a drunken stuper I clicked on the wrong post, I meant to click on the one before yours. sorry

Not a problem, I thought maybe I posted something and then forgot what I said; I am getting old you know.