... I dare say though, it is easy to spot a 2094 user, the arm he uses for pulling the starter is usually 3" longer than his other.
..... I think the word play with real, true and pure is the key to this debate.......
I agree. There appears to be 3 potential positions available.
Position 1:
Jonsereds (complete with the "s") that were made prior to Elctrolux, Partner, and Husqvarna.
Some pure ones (910, 510 and 410) were introduced after the merger, but before the "S" disappeared.
Position 2:
Jonsered saws that were produced after the merger and with some influence from Elux, Partner, and Husky, but with no parts interchanging.
Some parts interchange and heritage should be allowed.
Position 3:
Jonsered saws that were produced after the merger and have parts that interchange with Partner and Husqvarna.
Rebadged ones, with a few changes.
Can we agree on this as a starting point?
Is there anything missing here? (another position, criteria, etc)
I believe that once there is a consensus on what the positions are, then arguments can be made for and/or against these positions.
opcorn:
Imo, the last pure Jonsereds was the 910, 510 and 410 (1979).
Comments in Magenta color.
The 2094-95 is merely a rebadged 394-5.....
For me, the "original" Jonsereds era ended with the end of the perforated aluminum air-intakes over the flywheel. The 490, etc. and 2050/1/5 design work came about while Electrolux's looming presence was becoming the 1000lb gorilla of the market...and that certainly had a significant effect.
Before this, Jonsered/Jonsereds designs were, well, just a little "different" inside and out. And thus, endearing. Later saws started to look just a bit more "generic", and lost the special look that said Jonsereds.
I have a 90; its a thing of beauty. I recently passed on a 910: way too much $$, but I also don't think they are as nice looking. That clumsy-looking, squarish handle mount down the right side looks like an add-on to the sleek body, while the same feature on my 90 looks organic and "just right". There are some features on the old ones I dislike: the silver top on my 621's look gaudy to me, kinda like the chrome parade helmets veterans wear on the 4th of July.
But I don't suppose my personal preferences add up to a definitive answer on when an era ended, do they
Nothing could be further from the truth. About all they share is the same displacement.
So how does this read?
Position 1:
Jonsereds (complete with the "s") that were made prior to or immediately after the merger (Elctrolux, Partner, Husqvarna), but are not influenced by said merger (no parts interchange).
Position 2:
Jonsered saws that were produced after the merger and with some influence from Elux, Partner, and Husky, but with few parts interchanging.
Position 3:
Jonsered saws that were produced after the merger and have a majority of parts that interchange with Partner and Husqvarna. Essentially these are re-badged saws with a few changes to differentiate them from Husqvarna and Partner saws.
You must have had a 920 or 930, the 910 did not have the squarrish handle down the side. The silver top seemed to run cooler in hot weather because of its top cover color. Now if you think a 90 was a thing of beauty then you never owned a 80.
Willard
I guess you got me, Holmen. I went to Mike acres site; the 910 is a sleek "modern-looking" saw without the clunky-looking anti-vibe handlebar on the side. Actually, the styling shows what the 625/630/670 would look like in a couple of years, didn''t it?
The 920/930 is what I apparently passed on. I still say the owner can keep it for $500, though. Good catch!
You also got me, I admit, on the "80". I don't have one, and assumed they were much like the "90". Acres' site suggests not, eh! Aargh...another one of the dreaded silver-tops! There was a very similar 801, with the soothing black cap...ahhh!
Nothing could be further from the truth. About all they share is the same displacement.
ok....
so, there's more different than with current saws like the 2171/372, 2186/385and 359/2159
The 801 is a treat. I hope to get an 80 sometime this year and run them side by side. I think it was Holmen that said the 80 will outcut the 801 though. The 910 is one of the best looking JReds ever produced in my opinion. Hoss had one on Ebay that looked great.
I have two 920's, one says that it was built in 1984 I think. It is too damn cold and treacherous icy to go out to the "way back" garage where it is resting to check for sure, but it seems to be a design that is not shared with other saws. I profess ZERO expertise here, just curious. I got this saw from Ohiofarmer on this site, and it is a very good saw, he done me right. JR
A fellow AS member owns my 80 now. I should have kept that saw.
Bill
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