Worlds No.1 Chainsaw

[Geal]

i have used many different chainsaws over the years stihl, husqvarna/jonserd dolmar/makita etc but have different views on them all, they all have there advantages and disadvantages, but i think in the next couple of years i think Makita will be world No.1 in saw e.g 7900 first saw to achieve 1kg per bhp power to weight and there always improving there saws to perform better, etc

Please have your say as this is my opinion and dont want to start a little war

Have your say, what you think and why?

 

[matt9923]

Welcome to the site.
Theirs a thread like this every other day i think. But people still bite.
I don't know much about makita but i know i will always run stihl and even husky.

It's what i grew up with and always used and they always have my back. I doubt you going to see loggers running makitas.

 

[Zombiechopper]

i have used many different chainsaws over the years stihl, husqvarna/jonserd dolmar/makita etc but have different views on them all, they all have there advantages and disadvantages, but i think in the next couple of years i think Makita will be world No.1 in saw e.g 7900 first saw to achieve 1kg per bhp power to weight and there always improving there saws to perform better, etc

Please have your say as this is my opinion and dont want to start a little war

Have your say, what you think and why?

Hmmm...well Makita is just a rebranded Dolmar. Odd how they needed to give a German brand a Japanese name to get them to sell. Secondly, they are not durable enough for professional use. Third, Dolmar has a tiny fraction of the sales of Stihl or Husqvarna. They will not be the number one anything within the next couple years. I don't have anything against Dolmar, but you gotta look at some business numbers to understand how far fetched Dolmar being number one really is.

 

[MR4WD]

Not gonna happen. There are way too many husky and stihl dealerships to compete with. I couldn't think of a single west coast logger that would use a dolmar based on the dealership network alone.

 

[Geal]

Hmmm...well Makita is just a rebranded Dolmar. Odd how they needed to give a German brand a Japanese name to get them to sell. Secondly, they are not durable enough for professional use. Third, Dolmar has a tiny fraction of the sales of Stihl or Husqvarna. They will not be the number one anything within the next couple years. I don't have anything against Dolmar, but you gotta look at some business numbers to understand how far fetched Dolmar being number one really is.

yes i know they are involved with dolmar but i think they will target brands such as stihl/husky etc im more of a stihl/husky man my self but i think makita will soon take the No.1 spot specially with the jap's behind them and we all know how the are with technology..... it what i have though over the last year or so i just wanted to see what other people though have there say, more than 1 opinion is better than one.

 

[Austin1]

I will go with the 7900 but I am as biased as the Stihl Heads!:hmm3grin2orange:I just could not believe the grunt and how light it was my favorite big saw.And Smooth too.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

Stihl is going to be #1 for along time to come. It has everything to do with dealer location and the amount of dealers along with parts availability in a reasonable amount of time if not at the time that the part is needed. Not to mention the dependability of their products.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

yes i know they are involved with dolmar but i think they will target brands such as stihl/husky etc im more of a stihl/husky man my self but i think makita will soon take the No.1 spot specially with the jap's behind them and we all know how the are with technology..... it what i have though over the last year or so i just wanted to see what other people though have there say, more than 1 opinion is better than one.

The Japs have been behind Echo since day 1. Not the #1 saw though. We are not talking about cars.:greenchainsaw:

 

[Nailsbeats]

Oh yeah, Makita will be at the top, you bet.:greenchainsaw:

 

[Geal]

The Japs have been behind Echo since day 1. Not the #1 saw though. We are not talking about cars.:greenchainsaw:

fair point im starting to get a different picture now i didnt think of the dealership side glad you all thave had your say, that what this site is all about shearing information.

 

[Zombiechopper]

yes i know they are involved with dolmar but i think they will target brands such as stihl/husky etc im more of a stihl/husky man my self but i think makita will soon take the No.1 spot specially with the jap's behind them and we all know how the are with technology..... it what i have though over the last year or so i just wanted to see what other people though have there say, more than 1 opinion is better than one.

Hey its cool if you like Dolmar, but when you look at sales numbers they are not going to be number one. Stihl probably sells something like twenty chainsaws for every one saw dolmar sells - I'm guessing here I'll find the exact number but its huge. Dolmar is a really tiny company compared to Stihl and Husqvarna. Really tiny. So, it's cool to like their stuff, but they're swimming in the kiddy pool while Stihl and Husqy are playing in the deep end.

Oh, and Makita isn't just "involved" with Dolmar. Dolmar makes Makita saws. They are just Dolmars with blue plastic. German saws with a Japanese brand name on them. Its just marketing, there is no relationship between Makita tools quality and Makita chainsaws quality.

 

[CHEVYTOWN13]

i have used many different chainsaws over the years stihl, husqvarna/jonserd dolmar/makita etc but have different views on them all, they all have there advantages and disadvantages, but i think in the next couple of years i think Makita will be world No.1 in saw e.g 7900 first saw to achieve 1kg per bhp power to weight and there always improving there saws to perform better, etc

Please have your say as this is my opinion and dont want to start a little war

Have your say, what you think and why?

This guy's a cool cat:smoking:

 

[rupedoggy]

fair point im starting to get a different picture now i didnt think of the dealership side glad you all thave had your say, that what this site is all about shearing information.

This site is about shearing and looks like you have been sheared.

 

[Spitzer]

Good saws, but not miracles.

I have a new top handle Makita 230t that is made in Japan, but don't know of any other jap made models.
Like most have already said though, be it german Dolmar or jap Makita, they ain't about to become #1, or #2 either.

 

[Spitzer]

This site is about shearing and looks like you have been sheared.

 

[GlenWimpy]

i have used many different chainsaws over the years stihl, husqvarna/jonserd dolmar/makita etc but have different views on them all, they all have there advantages and disadvantages, but i think in the next couple of years i think Makita will be world No.1 in saw e.g 7900 first saw to achieve 1kg per bhp power to weight and there always improving there saws to perform better, etc

Please have your say as this is my opinion and dont want to start a little war

Have your say, what you think and why?

I think you need to get a new weedman!

 

[TreePointer]

i have used many different chainsaws over the years stihl, husqvarna/jonserd dolmar/makita etc but have different views on them all, they all have there advantages and disadvantages, but i think in the next couple of years i think Makita will be world No.1 in saw e.g 7900 first saw to achieve 1kg per bhp power to weight and there always improving there saws to perform better, etc

Please have your say as this is my opinion and dont want to start a little war

Have your say, what you think and why?

It all depends on your definitins. "No.1 in saw" means what? No.1 selling saw? Best technology? Other?

Even though Dolmar/Makita may be setting technology records (say, in hp/kg), that doesn't always translate to increased sales or market share. There are many examples of better design/technology not translating to market domination throughout history. Betamax vs. VHS, Macintosh vs Windows/Intel, et al.

There is also the problem of government regulations (environmental, trade agreements, protectionism) that can throw a wrench in the works of natural market forces. An example is the general unavailability in the USA of the clean diesel cars that get great mileage and are plentiful in Europe.

 

[stihlavarna]

Before I found this site I never heard of Dolmar, like most (general public) if I was shopping for a saw Husky and Stihl would be on the top of my list as I have heard of them through friends and advertising.

Plus I don't find the word Dolmar very sexy either..... *puts on flamesuit*

 

[tdi-rick]

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Oh, and Makita isn't just "involved" with Dolmar. Dolmar makes Makita saws. They are just Dolmars with blue plastic. German saws with a Japanese brand name on them. Its just marketing, there is no relationship between Makita tools quality and Makita chainsaws quality.

Not sure how you can spin it that way when Makita has owned Dolmar since 1991, (bought outright from Mannesmann AG, majority shareholders of Fichtel & Sachs) a number of their tech staff are Japanese, etc, etc.
BTW, the Dolmar name is being phased out in many markets worldwide.

Makita has ignored Dolmar in terms of marketing for years, I'm guessing as they aren't teal blue. The marketing budget set aside for Dolmar has been minuscule and they don't support their dealers like, say Husky does, at least in this country.
FWIW it looks like Makita are phasing out the Dolmar name here (Australia) which is a shame, and pushing the OPE as Makita. Maybe we'll see a greater push into the market as a consequence.

I was talking to one of the Makita OPE fella's here a few weeks back, and he mentioned they had problems in the past with volumes and pricing out of Germany.
I'm guessing each Makita distributor, while owned by Head office has to 'do business' with each other affiliated company to procure product and for whatever reasons this hasn't been as straight forward as dealing with Japan and China with power tools.

 

[Ma Barker]

Mature markets usually boil down to two primary brands, like Coke & Pepsi, that own 80 - 90% of the market. It is extremely difficult for a smaller competing company to dislodge the #2 player, let alone #1, in a head-to-head approach. Dolmar/Makita's best bet is to discover an unserved or underserved niche & market the right product to own that niche. Their overall market share won't be as large, but their category position will be more secure.

Another possibility is to develop or introduce a disruptive technology - something that scratches an itch that other manufacturers have ignored - then try to work their way up to competing products. This is what Honda did when they brought their tiny Civics and Accords to the States in the late 60s - early 70s; these cars served very basic transportation needs and got exceptional gas mileage, while most American cars weren't nearly as fuel-efficient. The gas crisis of the early 70s helped the Honda brand get a foothold; then the cars began moving up the product food chain by making them gradually larger & more luxurious. Today, the Accord especially is substantially more car than it was when introduced; it's no longer an entry-level vehicle.

As TreePointer pointed out, they could develop the most technologically advanced saw . . . but that won't help if the other P's (price, promotion, distribution) can't support the product.

Sumptin' like that,

Ma