New MS440 - Feast Your Eyes!!!

[SawTroll]

..... And, the most annoying part of it all by far, is the fact it was a solution for a problem that didn't exist.

Stihl is very good at inventing that, not so good at inventing really useful features.....

 

[J.W Younger]

Stihl is very good at inventing that, not so good at inventing really useful features.....

Aw, come on now Niko, you don't mean that.
LMFAO

 

[Gologit]

And, the most annoying part of it all by far, is the fact it was a solution for a problem that didn't exist.

Well said.

 

[young]

heres the solution, just buy 660s if buying stihl. problem solved. :hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

 

[MacLaren]

heres the solution, just buy 660s if buying stihl. problem solved. :hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

Well......the new 661's will have flippy caps as well I've heard.

 

[blsnelling]

Well......the new 661's will have flippy caps as well I've heard.

I'm sure they will. All new Stihls have had them, including the MS880. I personally like them, although I have messed up putting them on before. That's MY fault though, not the saws.

 

[MacLaren]

I'm sure they will. All new Stihls have had them, including the MS880. I personally like them, although I have messed up putting them on before. That's MY fault though, not the saws.

Cool. Since I'm sitting in the barbershop waiting on a haircut, ill ask do the flippy caps start to leak about after a year?

 

[blsnelling]

Not in my experience.

 

[SawTroll]

Aw, come on now Niko, you don't mean that.
LMFAO

Yup, things like the QSS and the QCA are perfect exemples of solutions to non-existing problems...:msp_rolleyes:

 

[SawTroll]

Not in my experience.

Not in mine either.....

 

[tlandrum]

hooray flippy caps,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,fellas dont let a cap outsmart you. i wished my xpw had friggin flippy caps.... so there chew on that

 

[komatsuvarna]

I don't have a problem with the flippy caps, I actually think they work good as long as ya know how to use them.

I keep a little ms250 in the work truck( that gets beat to death) to cut HDPE and PVC pipe. About once a year I have to replace a fuel cap or so from some en-expierenced labor that's never used one...strips the guts right out of it.
The oil cap has never been off lol. The oil will mess up the fusion process of the HDPE pipe.

 

[wyk]

I don't have a problem with the flippy caps, I actually think they work good as long as ya know how to use them.

I keep a little ms250 in the work truck( that gets beat to death) to cut HDPE and PVC pipe. About once a year I have to replace a fuel cap or so from some en-expierenced labor that's never used one...strips the guts right out of it.
The oil cap has never been off lol. The oil will mess up the fusion process of the HDPE pipe.

The oil cap on my MS250 failed catastrophically after 3 months, the fuel cap at 7. Both blew all their fluids everywhere. The fuel soaked the base of tree I was falling. How am I supposed to trust them again? Both were replaced for free, at least. That was the last flippy Stihl I will use for a long time. I left it back at the ranch in Oregon. None of my saws have flippy caps now. I feel that's the best way to be smarter than the flippy caps.

 

[Johny Utah]

The hard part is when they fail. And they do, and there is a reason they were recalled on some products, and I won't be surprised if that recall becomes extended because the saw I had that failed was not on the recall list. They also wear much faster than standard screw on caps and become more difficult to tell if they are on right after a lot of use, and are more expensive to replace than standard caps until the aftermarket kicks in. And, the most annoying part of it all by far, is the fact it was a solution for a problem that didn't exist.

I thought the recall was for trimmers and no saws were effected. I've never had problems with mine but I will keep an eye on them for excessive wear. The one thing I don't like about them is the sawdust that gets trapped under the flip lever. I use a paint brush to clean out all the chips before I open them. It's definitely a PITA.

 

[RiverRat2]

Well sometimes you just gotta be smarter than the tool you are working with :hmm3grin2orange:

Well,,, I have to disagree to a point,,,,,,

You should always be smarter!!!!! LOLOL!!!

The real problem with the flippy caps is the stupidity of putting Ethanol in Gasoline!!!

Thats what needs to be fixed!!!!

 

[Wood Doctor]

Stihl Laid an Egg

Yup, things like the QSS and the QCA are perfect exemples of solutions to non-existing problems...:msp_rolleyes:

Yes, men, there was a problem with ordinary tank caps, created by Stihl. Stihl stuck a label on the housing showing that the caps should be tightened by the Stihl scrench. Many strong men tightened the caps so tight that they could hardly untighten them with the same scrench to add more fuel or chain oil.

The caps then got all buggered up and eventually wore out and nothing could tighten or untighten them (except maybe a Vice Grip), and even really large screwdrivers failed. So, new caps had to be bought from the dealer, and they weren't cheap.

I doubt that either tank cap really needed to be tighted with the scrench. A typical saw operater could have tightened the tank caps by hand and then used the scrench, if need be, to loosen them. That's MHO.

 

[procarbine2k1]

Yes, men, there was a problem with ordinary tank caps, created by Stihl. Stihl stuck a label on the housing showing that the caps should be tightened by the Stihl scrench. Many strong men tightened the caps so tight that they could hardly untighten them with the same scrench to add more fuel or chain oil.

The caps then got all buggered up and eventually wore out and nothing could tighten or untighten them (except maybe a Vice Grip), and even really large screwdrivers failed. So, new caps had to be bought from the dealer, and they weren't cheap.

I doubt that either tank cap really needed to be tighted with the scrench. A typical saw operater could have tightened the tank caps by hand and then used the scrench, if need be, to loosen them. That's MHO.

VERY WELL SAID! On top of caps getting buggered up, I think the heart of the new cap, were guys breaking the centers out of the caps on some saws (I have done this, which is why I was told flippy caps exist).

 

[Gologit]

hooray flippy caps,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,fellas dont let a cap outsmart you. i wished my xpw had friggin flippy caps.... so there chew on that

Yeah, but you're a logger. You thrive on aggravation.

 

[rms61moparman]

Yes, men, there was a problem with ordinary tank caps, created by Stihl. Stihl stuck a label on the housing showing that the caps should be tightened by the Stihl scrench. Many strong men tightened the caps so tight that they could hardly untighten them with the same scrench to add more fuel or chain oil.

The caps then got all buggered up and eventually wore out and nothing could tighten or untighten them (except maybe a Vice Grip), and even really large screwdrivers failed. So, new caps had to be bought from the dealer, and they weren't cheap.

I doubt that either tank cap really needed to be tighted with the scrench. A typical saw operater could have tightened the tank caps by hand and then used the scrench, if need be, to loosen them. That's MHO.

Anyone who doesn't have enough sense to moderate how they tighten a fuel cap has ABSOLUTELY no business running a tool as complicated and dangerous as a chainsaw!!!
JMHO


Mike

 

[wyk]

I've heard MS440's now use plastic in their oilers...