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Gypo Logger

Gypo Logger

Timber Baron
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Maybe the problem is AS has reached a certain saturation point. That may be why so many threads get derailed.
I never minded the so called trolls because it's ends up being a playground for humorous comments.
No one deserves to get chased off by other members but having a thick skin helps.
With a few social skills it's easy to deflect a real or imagined slight.
Irregardless, there are still a lot of good members left here and still lots to discuss.
John
 
Mastermind

Mastermind

Work Saw Specialist
Joined
Nov 21, 2009
Messages
36,449
Location
Tennessee
For an excellent head study on the beta male hyena affect in action when a new pup wanders into the pack, check out the lambasting this poor dude is receiving from the seasoned pros. You'll see what the causative factor is bearing on the attrition rate around here. An alpha stepped in on behalf of the pup and got some handed to him by the b-types also.

Took until the 9th post for the guy to get some useful advise grounded in experience.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/value-of-these-saws.271696/

Thanks for the link.

Good to see beta male hyenas in action. :rock:
 
Gologit

Gologit

Completely retired...life is good.
. AS Supporting Member.
Joined
May 19, 2005
Messages
16,410
Location
In the Redwoods.
So........have we just got too many little pussies now?

:laugh:

Maybe. There are certainly a lot of members whose feelings seem to be easily hurt when somebody disagrees with them. There are a lot of inflated egos here too and far too many self proclaimed experts whose only real knowledge comes from what they've learned on this site. That's not all there is. Not nearly.
That's not unusual though, it's merely a continuation of the way things have always been on AS. People come and people go. Saws are a fad for a lot of people and once they get the knowledge they need or their interest dies down they're gone. There are always people to replace them. Always.
Same with saw builders and modifiers. They're here for awhile, reinvent the wheel, make a big splash, and then fade off into some other interest. They're replaced by the next wonder child and things start all over again.
In the meantime, the members fill up pages with bickering and the saw builders argue with and demean each other.
Occasionally there are highly skilled and knowledgeable people on here who give freely of their time and advice but most of them eventually leave. They get tired of being asked their opinion and then argued with when they give their answer. We've lost some of our best members because of that.
I've been seeing the same things and hearing the same complaints since I joined in 2005. I don't see anything changing any time soon.
The thing to remember is that the owners of AS don't have any real interest in the site's quality of content. They're interested in advertising revenue and that's all they really care about. It's a business to them, nothing more. Lots of threads with lots of conversation equals a lot of site traffic and that's what the advertisers want to see. The owners, to a certain extent, encourage the arguing and fighting and rude behavior. It creates traffic. It creates numbers. As long as the numbers are there the owners don't care about the content.
So, those among you who are offended by what goes on here can keep whining and trying to get things to change or you can just accept it for what it is. Or you can get mad and leave. Your replacement is just around the corner.
It's still the best forum for a broad range of topics and expertise. You just have to wade through some crap to find the good stuff.
Deal with it.
 
Duke Thieroff

Duke Thieroff

Fill your hands, you SOB!
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Location
Beaver County, Pennsylvania
So, those among you who are offended by what goes on here can keep whining and trying to get things to change or you can just accept it for what it is.

May I add, and this is just a general statement....

Just worry about what you do yourself and be a useful contributor to things.

Anyone can be a fool, hell I was born that way. Don't mean I was raised one or plan on being one.


Takes discipline to not be. Work on that!
 
Turbo BBQ

Turbo BBQ

ArboristSite Lurker
Joined
Jan 23, 2015
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45
Location
Alpine, TN
what we all need to remember is to speak to folks just like we would if they right in front of us.

Yeah like this:
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mike515

mike515

ArboristSite Operative
Joined
Dec 31, 2014
Messages
410
Location
The magical cow kingdom
I haven't been here very long but I hope some people have found my advise to be solid. I enjoy the site and hope to be part of whatever improvement comes.

As far as getting flamed.....I don't feel like anyone has been like that to me at all. At the same time, I doubt if I'm presenting myself as in any way new to the job and asking a lot of questions about simple stuff. But hey....if a guy needs to know, he needs to know. You might never know unless you ask. Especially in our line of work....if you need an answer....speak up!!
 
saxman

saxman

Addicted to ArboristSite
Joined
Oct 20, 2004
Messages
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Location
Illinois
I have been a member here since 2004. When I first started I learned much from reading very informative and well thought out threads on projects Lakeside Andy's threads come to mind as classics, his 056 Magnum rebuild was great. I don't come here as much as I used to, one reason is there is not much of interest for me anymore. The same old me vs. you thing gets old. Mastermind and Brad Snelling have some good posts from time to time but I guess I've moved on in hobbies. I have been rebuilding a Lincoln SA200 Redface portable welder (1966) and another Lincoln shop welder. I still like chainsaws and always want to learn more.


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Steve
Lincoln IdealArc 250
Lincoln SA200 1966 Redface
 

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