I agree that it's a good thing to give ebay some competition, paypal too, as far as I'm concerned. I just mentioned it hasn't happened yet. But you won't be giving them any competition if you follow them with their fees. It's actually the fees why most of us are leaving. Ebay would do fine with just a 5% fee for selling our things because it's the seller who does all the work anyway. All ebay does is provide a web page to do your posting in. I also don't think paypal should charge you to put your money in and then charge you again to take it out. They've been the only game in town..doesn't mean we have to play that game!!