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Im sure there are plenty of dealings that go bad in this world.....





Brad just remember next time you post how you got screwed .....Somebody else might feel the same about dealing with you .......

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I really got nothing to say but couldn't pass up the opportunity to be part of this wonderful thread. :popcorn: Now, I won't need to watch my soap operas for a month! :monkey: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
we in the U.P. don't like to be referred to as Michiganders. To us Michigan is just another state under the great land of Superior. O ya and we got a lot of fatties here too.......HEY, is it a bad Idea to start potato plants early then replant them to get early taters?

You mean start potatoes in a green house? If so, you may only harvest a week or two in advance. Once they start growing, they need to be in good soil or they will crap out. If you want early taters, just dig them up. :) They will be small but good. I would recommend finding an early harvest variety. Try the Kennebec, atlantic or Sheppedy (sp?). i think they are early sooner.
 
You mean start potatoes in a green house? If so, you may only harvest a week or two in advance. Once they start growing, they need to be in good soil or they will crap out. If you want early taters, just dig them up. :) They will be small but good. I would recommend finding an early harvest variety. Try the Kennebec, atlantic or Sheppedy (sp?). i think they are early sooner.

Thanks!
you can close up shop now boss:)
 
Joat bought a 084 from me a couple years ago. He afterwards decided he didn't like a repainted saw. I have a hard time seeing where that's my problem. That right there is proof that he didn't buy this 066 because he wanted it. That 084 was built in a long detailed thread right here on AS. How Joat can claim he didn't know what was getting is beyond me. Why he had trouble starting it is beyond me. It had a brand new OEM P&C, rebuilt carb, etc... He never communicated to me what was wrong.

I was extremely leary of selling this 066 to Joat in the first place. He didn't like the 084 since it was repainted, so why would he want this one. On top of that, he's made it his place to be a pain in my butt, for no apparent reason. I had multiple people PM and warn me. I promised myself after he bad mouthed me through the grapevine on the 084 that I would never deal with him again. Maldeney, you're right. The almighty dollar clouded my reasoning. I was a fool to be sucked into this.

Plain and simple, Trimmmed humliated Joat last week when he called him out in the Tradin Post. After I knew Joat had seen it I deleted that add and reinstalled it to get rid of the rif raf. Like I stated above, and Joat already admitted too, Joat bought this saw only to save face.

Joat and Tom both make it look like I posted this thread after I knew some of these details. Get for real! Do you really think I'd start a thread like this had I known the cylinder did have broken fins? Hardly! Like I'm so good for, my applogies here, I had already jumped the gun and started the thread. Tom, I took your advise and am refunding Joat. I've also applogized for starting this thread. But this thread was already started before I ever even PMd you.

And to clear another thing up. Joat didn't contact me to discuss this situation. He sent a very short and curt PM that said "the cylinder has two broken fins and it's being shipped back". There was no discussion here, nor was I given a chance to make it right. That's why I got ticked off and started the thread. I had people as much as tell me that Joat would do exactly what he did. It doesn't take a rocket scientist.

Stihlboy, you're pathetic. You tell my "I'm like family" and then you stab me in the back:dizzy: That's all I have to say to you.

With all that said, I again appologize for starting both this thread and the one last week about my new 084. I'm an extravert, and I sometimes post too fast. Duhh, I guess you already knew that, lol. I talked to Nik today and told him that I don't need the few antagnists I have here to make problems for me, I do a good job of that myself. IndianSprings you are correct. I can only hope that one day, I'll learn to set on it for a while before I post it. Yes, I'm embarrased about all this, but not for one second, did I try to screw anyone over.

Brad if you recall you passed along the PM Joat sent you to me. You are leaving out alittle bit of what he told you. Now either you can state fully what he told you or I can state it but this isn't MSNBC or FOX where you can cut out parts you don't like. You are also leaving out what you told him in reply. That too I can state or you can. His PM to you was justified by Stihl Inc, your testy reply was not justified. Makes no nevermind to me for I personally don't care, the squabble is between you and him. I was asked to replaced a piston, I agreed, thats all. My PM's to you about this whole matter were freindly and to the point. Why you started this thread is beyond me. I knew when I seen it all hell was going to break loose, it has. If it weren't for this thread no one would know you got the saw back cept you, Joat and me. Thats how it should have been handled. All this drama was created by you, no one else. I said my peace in a eariler post and was done. However I know what was said in those PM's and the truth will not be denied as long as I'm around. So keep it on the up and up..
 
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I don't think it matters much trimmmed, I called it as I saw it, he threw mudd and innuendos but sure hasn't had the nuts to respond to me in any way since. Pretty much makes my point for me. I got no use for the tool.
 
Oh the drama

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Brad if you recall you passed along the PM Joat sent you to me. You are leaving out alittle bit of what he told you. Now either you can state fully what he told you or I can state it but this isn't MSNBC or FOX where you can cut out parts you don't like. You are also leaving out what you told him in reply. That too I can state or you can. His PM to you was justified by Stihl Inc, your testy reply was not justified. Makes no nevermind to me for I personally don't care, the squabble is between you and him. I was asked to replaced a piston, I agreed, thats all. My PM's to you about this whole matter were freindly and to the point. Why you started this thread is beyond me. I knew when I seen it all hell was going to break loose, it has. If it weren't for this thread no one would know you got the saw back cept you, Joat and me. Thats how it should have been handled. All this drama was created by you, no one else. I said my peace in a eariler post and was done. However I know what was said in those PM's and the truth will not be denied as long as I'm around. So keep it on the up and up..

Obviously, we see this a little differently. If Joat had bought this saw in good faith, he would have given me the opportunity to make it right. He did not. He told me he was returning it, just like he told me he was going to buy it. He knew I wouldn't sell it to him unless he called me out publically. I should have listened, not only to my better judgement, but to what many others were trying to tell me.

At first, I flatly refused to accept the saw back. It was an honest mistake, one that I believe would have had no consequences. The fins aren't like completely missing. They're simply missing a corner. I assume that's what you're talking about in the rest of the PMs. But my better judgement tells me that I don't want Joat to own this saw. I don't care how much I lose on it. It was my mistake to sell it to him in the first place. I stand 100% by the belief that Joat was out to nail me, and he did.
 
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I must be nuts, I just read this thread from start to finish and all I can say is, HOLLY SHEEP!!! I'm GLAD I'm not on this JURY!!!:jawdrop:
 
Obviously, we see this a little differently. If Joat had bought this saw in good faith, he would have given me the opportunity to make it right. He did not. He told me he was returning it, just like he told me he was going to buy it. At first, I flatly refused. I assume that's what you're talking about in the rest of the PMs. But my better judgement tells me that I don't want Joat to own this saw. I don't care how much I lose on it. It was my mistake to sell it to him in the first place. I stand 100% by the belief that Joat was out to nail me, and he did.

Brad,

I did PM you twice this morning and IMHO got arrogant, non responsive replies. I still have them for the record. I looked up your phone number and called you at 11:16 AM EST and I have that record as well. That's precisely when you started this thread. For the record, the number I found was "disconnected or no longer in service".

Brad, if the saw had been as described, this day would have gone better. That is the bottom line.

joat
 
Joat, your PM this morning said nothing more than the saw had 2 broken cylinder fins which was not disclosed. According to Stihl, 2 broken cylinder fins will lead to a quick overheat and death. He then flatly stated that he would be returning the saw. Nothing else. I was given no opportunity to make it right, as you're suggesting.
 
Joat, your PM this morning said nothing more than the saw had 2 broken cylinder fins which was not disclosed. According to Stihl, 2 broken cylinder fins will lead to a quick overheat and death. He then flatly stated that he would be returning the saw. Nothing else. I was given no opportunity to make it right, as he's suggesting.

Brad,

Well, I'd be happy to present the PM evidence to clear the air if you'd like. If both parties agree, is this within the AS rules?

joat
 
But it only counts if Brad gets the shaft. It only counts if Brad has someone calling him names. It only counts if Brad has to deal with the misery.
It's ok for him to be the one dealing dirty, it's ok for him to sling mud and call names, and it's ok for him to take advantage of the good natured people of this site.
I say it again, Karma, plain and simple! And I'll say again, I'd watch my mouth when speaking ill of other members!
 
You PMd me once. But that's besides the point. Yes, I was very defensive in my two replies. I knew you had bad intentions when you bought this saw, and then you inform me that you were returning it, with no discussion, confirming my fears. Yes, I was wrong about the fins being broken. For that I again apologize.
 
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