You're exactly rightThat why i say po tatoe and you say po tot o
You're exactly rightThat why i say po tatoe and you say po tot o
I wish trucks were still made like thisThat why i say po tatoe and you say po tot o
I have seen it from both sides of the fence I have to say I have seen many of the screw in caps that were broken when people used a scrench to over tighten the cap and even had broken flippy caps bought in for repair.. in most cases operator error is the root cause. I think of it as progress. For the few that hate the caps the overwhelming majority use them just fine with no issues. I would expect more of the tree companies having issues with the flippies but it seems its the homeowners that do. I do enjoy when someone comes in looking for a saw and then tells me of the hate of the flippy cap. I walk them over to the saws and in 3 mins they are curious why all the hate.
Brad when the shape of the tank or cap itself changes over time you may think different about the stupid flip caps. And I'd like to see you use the oil cap on a ms211 Nik had fun with that one. Sorry the Stihl flip caps are absurd.I fail to see the problem with either the Master Control Lever/Switch or the flippy caps. I never have understood the big deal made about either one of these. With the caps, you simply need to pay attention when installing them. I like them.
It is easy to say that a safety feature is useless until you run into a situation where you need it. Hell, cutting cookies ya may as well strip all the features off the saw
I've been there 18 months18 months?
OK, so how would the flippy cap have fared if that same ape had at it? Granted, you wouldn't have the problem of it being too tight to get off, but there likely wouldn't be much left of it!I guess there isn't a "solution looking for a problem" until you find a twisty top that some ape twisted on too tight and your scrench has chewed up the slot in the cap or you just happened to NOT go to the woods it's a vice grip.
I get it now, that's pretty annoyingOkay, I think I can shed some light on the flippy cap issue as I own one of the very first flippy cap saws.....and the caps on these first-run units are terrible. Here's why: Both caps on my saw (being the first year for flippys) fit the body of the opening just a tad too tight. So, when the cap is inserted (fully inserted as designed) and then turned clockwise.....the internal cam system within the body of the cap (that squished and expands the o-ring seal) moves BEFORE the body of the cap rotates in the opening to interlock with the tank. The result is that the cap is locked into place by the squished oring pressing outward in the tank opening ONLY and the locking dogs do not engage the tank. The result.....the cap on the gas tank holds until the saw is shaken during cranking when pressure in the tank blows the cap (and all the gasoline mix) out of the opening soaking the operators (my) pants with fuel. The oil tank cap usually stays in place and just leaks oil.
Now, I bought new caps thinking that a new cap design would fix the problem, but the brand new caps do the same thing. It's a problem with the tank opening size of these first-run MS series saws. So, I just use my small flat screw driver to hammer the caps clockwise engaging the dogs into the tank bodys first, then twist the bail clockwise to lock and seal. Have not had one single problem with my flippy's since I began doing them this way. I have run newer saws and they don't have this problem anymore.
I fail to see the problem with either the Master Control Lever/Switch or the flippy caps. I never have understood the big deal made about either one of these. With the caps, you simply need to pay attention when installing them. I like them.
OK, so how would the flippy cap have fared if that same ape had at it? Granted, you wouldn't have the problem of it being too tight to get off, but there likely wouldn't be much left of it!
BTW, I always wear a multi-tool when I'm working at home.
Somebody else would have to own that one if it was mine.Okay, I think I can shed some light on the flippy cap issue as I own one of the very first flippy cap saws.....and the caps on these first-run units are terrible. Here's why: Both caps on my saw (being the first year for flippys) fit the body of the opening just a tad too tight. So, when the cap is inserted (fully inserted as designed) and then turned clockwise.....the internal cam system within the body of the cap (that squished and expands the o-ring seal) moves BEFORE the body of the cap rotates in the opening to interlock with the tank. The result is that the cap is locked into place by the squished oring pressing outward in the tank opening ONLY and the locking dogs do not engage the tank. The result.....the cap on the gas tank holds until the saw is shaken during cranking when pressure in the tank blows the cap (and all the gasoline mix) out of the opening soaking the operators (my) pants with fuel. The oil tank cap usually stays in place and just leaks oil.
Now, I bought new caps thinking that a new cap design would fix the problem, but the brand new caps do the same thing. It's a problem with the tank opening size of these first-run MS series saws. So, I just use my small flat screw driver to hammer the caps clockwise engaging the dogs into the tank bodys first, then twist the bail clockwise to lock and seal. Have not had one single problem with my flippy's since I began doing them this way. I have run newer saws and they don't have this problem anymore.
Some of my older Echo's have the oil/gas fill caps on top of the saw under the brake handle. Impossible to fill tanks without spilling gas or oil.
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