PILTZ: Master HOT SAW builder (...not)

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It’s a forum classic. As bagel tree used to call it “dogpile on the rabbit”. It’s all in good fun.... until someone loses their income stream.
Unless an item / service is overhyped, misrepresented, etc., to the point of being fraudulent; then it is called something else.



Philbert
 
Let's get this out of the way 1st as I'm not a professional logger, I'm Joe home renter & i see that it's fun to bash the piltz guy as this thread has been going 2yrs, it's like seeing a fight & running over & getting a couple kicks in as Well & not even sure why? I have a piltz rim drive 18" kit on my ms 171 & it's a f@ckin ripper compared to the stock 16" skinny chain that came on it, I love it! There I said it
Hmmm New member that just joined and his first 3 posts in 2 different threads are defending Piltz and also talking about how amazing of a ripper his 30cc 1 something horsepower plastic homeowner 171 saw is with the Piltz kit. I think this is Piltz himself trolling.
 
. . . also talking about how amazing of a ripper his 30cc 1 something horsepower plastic homeowner 171 saw is with the Piltz kit. I think this is Piltz himself trolling.
Not necessarily.

If this is the first saw he has ever used / owned, and if he noticed a significant increase in chain speed with the Pilz mod, he may be duly impressed. If he tries to cut some bigger wood with it that requires torque, then compares it to another saw, he would notice the difference. That is why I asked him what kind of wood he cuts with it.

Not a lot different than a lot of guys on this site who start out with a modest chainsaw, and are perfectly pleased with it, until they attend a GTG and try someone's modded, large cube creation, and walk away with a permanent grin, and a persistent CAD infection.

@SweetpeaDave is from Levitttown, PA; someone please invite him to a local GTG event, and let him try some other saws. I know that a lot of guys would love to try his Pilz 171!

Philbert
 
Not necessarily.

If this is the first saw he has ever used / owned, and if he noticed a significant increase in chain speed with the Pilz mod, he may be duly impressed. If he tries to cut some bigger wood with it that requires torque, then compares it to another saw, he would notice the difference. That is why I asked him what kind of wood he cuts with it.

Not a lot different than a lot of guys on this site who start out with a modest chainsaw, and are perfectly pleased with it, until they attend a GTG and try someone's modded, large cube creation, and walk away with a permanent grin, and a persistent CAD infection.

@SweetpeaDave is from Levitttown, PA; someone please invite him to a local GTG event, and let him try some other saws. I know that a lot of guys would love to try his Pilz 171!

Philbert

"Best Answer"
 
Let's get this out of the way 1st as I'm not a professional logger, I'm Joe home renter & i see that it's fun to bash the piltz guy as this thread has been going 2yrs, it's like seeing a fight & running over & getting a couple kicks in as Well & not even sure why? I have a piltz rim drive 18" kit on my ms 171 & it's a f@ckin ripper compared to the stock 16" skinny chain that came on it, I love it! There I said it
And again, I never heard F'n ripper and MS171 used in the same sentence.
 
Not necessarily.

If this is the first saw he has ever used / owned, and if he noticed a significant increase in chain speed with the Pilz mod, he may be duly impressed. If he tries to cut some bigger wood with it that requires torque, then compares it to another saw, he would notice the difference. That is why I asked him what kind of wood he cuts with it.

Not a lot different than a lot of guys on this site who start out with a modest chainsaw, and are perfectly pleased with it, until they attend a GTG and try someone's modded, large cube creation, and walk away with a permanent grin, and a persistent CAD infection.

@SweetpeaDave is from Levitttown, PA; someone please invite him to a local GTG event, and let him try some other saws. I know that a lot of guys would love to try his Pilz 171!

Philbert

"Best Answer"
Agreed.
 
@SweetpeaDave is from Levitttown, PA; someone please invite him to a local GTG event, and let him try some other saws. I know that a lot of guys would love to try his Pilz 171!

Philbert
What odds would you give for him turning up if so invited, and with his hot saw?
 
What odds would you give for him turning up if so invited, and with his hot saw?
IDK
I haven't made comment on the matter.
I have a few questions.
Firstly: I'm wondering about the tail spread on these bars supplied. Do they compare with the k 095 mount such as you see on a 262xp or 357xp?
The chain goes on and off way of the chain adjuster?
Sprocket pitch and sizes?
 
What odds would you give for him turning up if so invited, and with his hot saw?
If he is an open-minded guy, I would be very pleased to have him show up. I'd bet that he would have a good time too!

Of course, I'm the guy who shows up at local GTG's with battery powered saws!

Philbert
 
If he is an open-minded guy, I would be very pleased to have him show up. I'd bet that he would have a good time too!

Of course, I'm the guy who shows up at local GTG's with battery powered saws!

Philbert
You know, I've often wondered if the battery saws would handle higher pin count rims without drawing too much and cooking the batteries. I guess they are current limited to avoid them being too much of a 'hot' saw?
 
If he is an open-minded guy, I would be very pleased to have him show up. I'd bet that he would have a good time too!

Of course, I'm the guy who shows up at local GTG's with battery powered saws!

Philbert
I had an electric one at the last one I went to and raced a husky 359. I lost big time.lol
 
I just got done repairing a 359 Husky and tested it a bit...no way an electric could keep up with it!
It was all done as a joke, I challenged him long before the GTG, Everyone knew the little homelite didn't stand a chance. but it was all in fun. it was 8 degrees that morning. we needed a laugh.lol
 
I've often wondered if the battery saws would handle higher pin count rims without drawing too much and cooking the batteries.
One of the reps mentioned this in one of the battery saw threads. He said that he could put a larger sprocket on the saw, to boost chain speed (motor RPM would not change) closer to what users of 2-cycle saws expect, but that it would reduce the number of cuts per charge, due to the added draw (more amps required to compensate for lost torque).

I think that it it best to optimize battery saws for the niche that they are good at, rather than trying to make them cut 'like' other saws. Back to the Piltz guy: I think that the MS171 is an OK saw in the niche that they are designed for, rather than trying to make them cut like a MS271 or MS391.

Philbert
 

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