Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Brufab]

Highly Volatile Burning Wood ?



If they cut to length logs for the mill, there must be lots of cut-offs and limbs left to scrounge!

Philbert

Yea lots of brush piles we burned. Maybe 30 monster ones we burnt cords and cords of wood because that was the easiest and fastest way to clear his build site. We did save the best for firewood. We had about 150 or so 10'6 logs mostly maple and popple that we ended up saving for firewood

 

[Vtrombly]

Agree with what you said. If they did that to me I would tell them that they can get it out and repair my yard or else I have a new lawn decoration.

I mean as a driver and a company I would assume they are responsible for knowing whether its capable of going on the property or not or training their employees to do so. Or asking for an alternate location. UPS will let you know that your item was undeliverable so why wouldn't this be any different. Your truck your responsible.

 

[husqvarna257]

We had one Karen Amazon driver yelling at me about the driveway, had to tell her to shut up or I wouldn't help. The no trespassing sign wenet up when the neighbor was selling their house and the realtor never put up a house # and we are the 1st house. The road closed is a joke. We had 3 people quit on us plowing the driveway. Now I just use the tractor.

 

[bob kern]

I was getting the gravel because of the mud in the area he backed over and of course with no weight in the bed and going uphill his tires just floated .

This is why I needed the gravel I put drainage tile all around the perimeter and it ended up being about a 10 inch base View attachment 1047494View attachment 1047496

Let me know how it does with condensation. Been considering one for the Apache.

 

[SS396driver]

Let me know how it does with condensation. Been considering one for the Apache.

No more than an unheated garage . I am going to add a floor which will stop some of the humidity . But when you get a warmish day and it hits the cold car or truck there’s condensation . The floor I’ll make 4x8 grids and fill them with gravel put 6 mill plastic on it and screw in 5/8 th plywood . Not a great picture but we did this in my dads barn in the 80s . Never had a problem with it even supports a four post lift

 

[MechanicMatt]

No more than an unheated garage . I am going to add a floor which will stop some of the humidity . But when you get a warmish day and it hits the cold car or truck there’s condensation . The floor I’ll make 4x8 grids and fill them with gravel put 6 mill plastic on it and screw in 5/8 th plywood . Not a great picture but we did this in my dads barn in the 80s . Never had a problem with it even supports a four post lift View attachment 1047551View attachment 1047552View attachment 1047547

Avanti’s? Your sis still around the corner from me? One day I need to drag MustangMike out to your place to see all your toys

 

[SS396driver]

Avanti’s? Your sis still around the corner from me? One day I need to drag MustangMike out to your place to see all your toys

Yes I was just up that way a week or so ago . 1963 Avanti unrestored the only paint work was to the nose someone backed into around 1995 interior is 100 % original down to the floor mats

 

[JimR]

Most likely cheap Chinese parts used . Guessing yours was built under the new Fiat mismanagement.

Mine is a 2016 RAM 2500 made in Mexico. The guys driving the 1500's with the 5.7 Hemi are having a lot more problems with the cam/lifter problem than the guys with the 6.4 Hemi.

 

[JimR]

They were in a garage at my rental home . But of course I have bought a few more . I have cars and trucks tucked away in three counties.

You need a 50 x 100 barn on a waterproof slab.

 

[JimR]

Yes I was just up that way a week or so ago . 1963 Avanti unrestored the only paint work was to the nose someone backed into around 1995 interior is View attachment 1047566100 % original down to the floor mats View attachment 1047564View attachment 1047565View attachment 1047567

Love it

 

[MechanicMatt]

SS396, there was a fella drive one around Walker Valley. Used to see it more about 15 years ago. Always liked it.

Cars were ahead of their time. VERY cool man

 

[Square Cutter]

Professional Saw Chain -​

Understanding Cutter Teeth​

In the Pacific Northwest, there is one type of saw chain that most professional chain saw users use: square-ground chisel bit. To fully understand why so many professional saw users prefer this chain, you must first understand some basics about chain saw cutter teeth.

Cutter Tooth Shapes​

There are two basic shapes of cutter teeth. One style we call: round, and the other we call: square. The images below show these basic shapes. The one on the left is round or "chipper" cutter tooth. The image in the middle is a square or "chisel" cutter tooth. Both are sharpened round. The tooth on the right is also square tooth, but it has been ground "square." This language may be a little confusing, but a study the images below should make these differences understandable. They depict all the basic shapes and grinds that are made.

Which Cutter Is Best?​

The answer to this really depends on you. Factors like the saw you run, the work you do, how you sharpen you chain, and so on, all play a part in determining which cutter is best. The following highlights characteristics of each type:

1. Round Chain - This chain is the easiest to sharpen. An average user can do it with a round file and have good results. It also has the best stay-sharp-ability of the three cutter teeth. Its cutting edge is more durable that those on either square tooth chain. This can be explained by the fact that the edge on a round cutter tooth is larger and better supported.
2. Square Tooth Round Ground - This chain cuts 10-15% faster than round chain on most saws. Since it takes less power for a sharp square cutter tooth to sever wood fiber, square tooth chain almost always improves a saw's cutting performance. This chain can also be sharpened with a round file, so it is fairly easy to maintain for an average user. While it outperforms round cutters when it is sharp, its stay-sharp-ability is not as good.
3. Square Tooth Square Ground - This chain cuts 20-25% better than round chain. A square ground chisel cutter tooth is the most efficient of the three. It offers the best cutting performance of all the cutter teeth when it is sharp. This chain can be sharpened with a special file, but most pro users sharpen it with a special square grinder. It is not a chain that is easy to maintain for an average user. Its stay-sharp-ability is also the least of the three styles of cutter teeth.

Advice​

1. If you are a professional timber faller working in the Pacific Northwest or Alaska, use square ground chisel chain.
2. If you use square ground chisel chain, buy a chisel grinder or become friends with someone who owns one. Filing square ground chisel chain is very difficult. Few people do it well. Of those who can file it, most would do an even better job if they had a grinder.
3. If you cut cedar, salvage, or work in dirty conditions, use round chain. It is easier to sharpen and will hold its edge better for you.
4. If you are working in clean wood and want the best cutting performance, but can't afford a square grinder, use round ground chisel chain. This chain performs well, is fairly easy to sharpen with a file, and will out-cut poorly filed square chisel chain every time.

A Few More Thoughts​

The stay-sharp advantage of round chain is mostly seen when working in dirty or light-abrasive conditions. A chain's stay-sharp-ability should not be confused with a chain becoming dull due to "rocking." Hitting a rock or other hard material will dull any cutter tooth -- round or square.

You will notice that harvester chain always has round cutter teeth. This type of tooth works best in this application because a round cutter tooth offers the best stay-sharp-ability. It is also the easiest chain for most operators to hand sharpen. Since harvesters are powered by a large diesel engine, a chain's cutting efficiency is not as big of a factor in cutting performance as it is with hand-held chain saws.
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I love chainsaw chain posts. Thank you for posting. However, would it be truer to say that square ground cutters are the most versatile? They can cut 20% faster than round but with less durability or they can be ground to more durable angles that exceed the durability of some round ground cutters.

Would a round ground 40 degree inside top plate angle be more durable than a 60 degree square ground inside top plate angle?

Also, if a round ground chain cuts for 30 minutes before it gets dull and a square ground chain cuts for 20 minutes before it gets dull but cuts more wood would the round ground cutter still get the win for durability?

 

[501Maico]

I was getting the gravel because of the mud in the area he backed over and of course with no weight in the bed and going uphill his tires just floated .

This is why I needed the gravel I put drainage tile all around the perimeter and it ended up being about a 10 inch base View attachment 1047494View attachment 1047496

Would a raised bed have helped before the driver got mired in?

 

[rarefish383]

I have two Chevy square body pu's, but I wouldn't trade my 2018 Silverado even up for a brand NEW square body, NO way NO how!

SR

My Dad bought a brand new72, C30, 12 foot bed, 350 4 speed. I'd love to have it back. But not enough to trade one of my JD X540's for it.

 

[svk]

I mean as a driver and a company I would assume they are responsible for knowing whether its capable of going on the property or not or training their employees to do so. Or asking for an alternate location. UPS will let you know that your item was undeliverable so why wouldn't this be any different. Your truck your responsible.

Exactly!

 

[svk]

Here’s a few pictures of the rod building process. The red wraps were my practice wraps and the blue were final.

This was a lot of fun. I’m excited to try this out because the components on this rod were much more expensive than any rod I’ve ever used. I normally fish with $50-$80 rods and this one cost over $300 just for components.

 

[rarefish383]

I love chainsaw chain posts. Thank you for posting. However, would it be truer to say that square ground cutters are the most versatile? They can cut 20% faster than round but with less durability or they can be ground to more durable angles that exceed the durability of some round ground cutters.

Would a round ground 40 degree inside top plate angle be more durable than a 60 degree square ground inside top plate angle?

Also, if a round ground chain cuts for 30 minutes before it gets dull and a square ground chain cuts for 20 minutes before it gets dull but cuts more wood would the round ground cutter still get the win for durability?

I've found that bigger chain is more durable than smaller chain. My mill with 3/8 hits a piece of barbed wire in a log and it's done for the day. My mill with 404 hits the same barbed wire in a log and it clips it off and only dulls 1 or 2 teeth. I'll just keep cutting firewood with my Homelite Super 1050, 24" bar, and 1/2" chain. I'm getting too old to get philosophical about chain. I know if you stick any of it in the ground it gets dull fast.

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

hello! - didn't want to get on with the day, sort out chores, etc... w/o a Happy New Year to ya'll!

our town continues to plod on... same o's! a post on scrounging and other stuff, combined!



only 54 pages behind!!

 

[SS396driver]

Would a raised bed have helped before the driver got mired in?

I had leveled the area by digging into the hill side if he had backed in he would have been downhill and in an area that already had item four spread . I dumped the wood and built the retaining wall afterwards

 

[SS396driver]

Mine is a 2016 RAM 2500 made in Mexico. The guys driving the 1500's with the 5.7 Hemi are having a lot more problems with the cam/lifter problem than the guys with the 6.4 Hemi.

So yup it’s a Fiat . Mine was also made in Mexico but under Daimler I only bought mine for the Cummins